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Re: Tremec experts? Keisler guys maybe?
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06/21/08 06:26 PM
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hmpf, ok. I just wondered because it was such a dramatic difference compared to other modern cars that I've driven--they are all equally, if not actually easier, to shift with the clutch than without. so when this transmission was the opposite, I didn't understand why.
but then again, the newer cars that I'm refering to, all made less than 200 hp and had wimpy transmissions.
Keep in mind when you are shifting with the clutch you are trying to slow down some pretty beefy gears and good sized disk.
I remember a tranny rebuilder friend of mine saying that a regular T-5 is a better tranny if you can live with the strength due to the lighter gear train shifting much easier.
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Re: Tremec experts? Keisler guys maybe?
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06/21/08 09:08 PM
06/21/08 09:08 PM
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Marysville, O-H-I-O
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Yea, I've decided that after today's mishap, I will not be trying to make fast shifts with this gearbox anymore.
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Re: Tremec experts? Keisler guys maybe?
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06/23/08 11:33 AM
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rj8806
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dangit. I did it again. I have proven to myself that I am clearly an idiot who should reconsider his choice of hobby.
I overshifted again...ok I thought, no big deal, I'll just yank it out of gear, afterall, shifting too far, too hard got it there, surely a good tug on it will pop it out of gear. yea, and straight into 1st gear again.
anyway, after much yanking since I was too lazy to pull over and try to fix it correctly, something let go.
here's what I found: (see attachment)
it's off the 3/4 fork and is easilly replaceable.
problem is, where did the missing tab go? what's the easiest way to fish it out of the gear box? or should I remove the tailshaft?
I looked down and cannot see it anywhere, even after draining the fluid. how do I get it out of there without dropping the transmission for a dis-assemble? (if there is no way, then I'll drop the transmission for a disassemble and maybe a syncro upgrade at the same time.)
Looks like you broke the 3/4 shift dog.  If the piece is on the bottom of the trans, the only way I know to get it out is dis-assemble the trans. You might be better off sending me the trans, and letting my guys fix it. I will also install the shift stops and set them while it's here. Let me know if you are interested. 
Richard
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Re: Tremec experts? Keisler guys maybe?
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06/23/08 06:05 PM
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estimated cost and turn around time for that? I'd like to get it fixed as quickly and easilly as possible. I can throw a new fork in there in about 5 minutes, and just need to work on getting the tab out.
but, I'd have to ship it both ways, so that's probably $200, plus the $50 shifter, plus labor to disassemble, reassemble, set up, etc. this sounds like a quick ticket to spend $500-$800
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Re: Tremec experts? Keisler guys maybe?
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06/24/08 07:53 AM
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rj8806
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estimated cost and turn around time for that? I'd like to get it fixed as quickly and easilly as possible. I can throw a new fork in there in about 5 minutes, and just need to work on getting the tab out.
but, I'd have to ship it both ways, so that's probably $200, plus the $50 shifter, plus labor to disassemble, reassemble, set up, etc. this sounds like a quick ticket to spend $500-$800
Shipping from Ohio, probably around $60 each way. 1 hr labor time at $69 and $50 for the shift stop installed comes out to roughly $240. Just an offer for you that's all. I am willing to ship it under our FedEx account to save you money. My guys can tear down a TKO in less than 20 minutes. Besides that, if we do the repair, then it is warrantied if, gosh forbid, something goes wrong.
I am just trying to help out, like I always do. Let me know.
Richard
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Re: Tremec experts? Keisler guys maybe?
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06/24/08 09:13 AM
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that's actually not too bad.
what about turn around time? how long will it take you to get to it, once it gets to your shop?
I suppose I'll make things more complicated, if I'm paying someone to take it apart, should I upgrade the syncro's while I'm at it? I've heard about having these "pro-shifted" ...something to do with the syncros that makes them much easier to shift. I read in the other thread about the iron vs bronze syncros, and RPMs are not a factor...my big block stroker has a hydraulic flat tappet cam, so I run out of revs at around 6200, and I'm running a stock electronic ignition with orange box, which supposedly will only fire 6000 rpm worth of spark. do I even need upgraded syncros?
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Re: Tremec experts? Keisler guys maybe?
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06/24/08 11:12 AM
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Wisconsin
Aero426
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are you telling me that I need to drive this truck like it's a bently?
These kind of Bentleys tend to be driven hard. 
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Re: Tremec experts? Keisler guys maybe?
[Re: 70Cuda383]
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06/24/08 12:27 PM
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rj8806
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that's actually not too bad.
what about turn around time? how long will it take you to get to it, once it gets to your shop?
I suppose I'll make things more complicated, if I'm paying someone to take it apart, should I upgrade the syncro's while I'm at it? I've heard about having these "pro-shifted" ...something to do with the syncros that makes them much easier to shift. I read in the other thread about the iron vs bronze syncros, and RPMs are not a factor...my big block stroker has a hydraulic flat tappet cam, so I run out of revs at around 6200, and I'm running a stock electronic ignition with orange box, which supposedly will only fire 6000 rpm worth of spark. do I even need upgraded syncros?
Give me your zip code and I can get an actual shipping charge. I think I can have it shipped back out in a day or 2 after receiveing it.
As for the upgraded syncros and pro-shifting it, I don't know of an upgraded syncro kit but we are not equipped to do the pro-shift modification. What it does, it removes every other tooth from the syncro making it easier to shift at higher rpm. On the down side, it takes away from the street ability of the transmission. It makes it impossible to down shift and it is very noisy. Since you are a big block, you won't be turning rpm's above 6000K so I don't think that it's a wise choice for your situation.
As I tell everyone else, If you can re-train yourself how to shift the TKO it will make a world of difference. When going from 2nd to 3rd, use the palm of your hand and simply throw the shifter handle straight forward out of 2nd and it will automatically find 3rd on it's own. If you try to shift it like a 4 speed(up, over and up again) you will miss 3rd most of the time. The gates are so close together on the TKO, using the 4 speed method, you'll either end up in between 3rd and 5th or in 5th. Practice my technique under normal driving conditions and get use to it before trying it at the track and I think you'll see a big difference.
Richard
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