Re: testing fan clutch
[Re: attaboy]
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07/08/10 04:56 PM
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It should offer significant resistance to spinning when it's hot....If when it's hot the fan spins easily on it, it's toast.
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Re: testing fan clutch
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07/08/10 06:16 PM
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It should offer significant resistance to spinning when it's hot....If when it's hot the fan spins easily on it, it's toast.
I can also hear my fan when it get's hot like when you get off the highway and come to stop. When I take off I can hear my fan moving air and after a few minutes the fan get's quiet again. That tells me the fan clutch is working.
And IMO there's no better way to cool a old mopar.
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Re: testing fan clutch
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07/09/10 04:25 PM
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Start up the motor, let it the clutch fluid circulate to where it is suppose to be. Feel the air behind the fan.
Put a piece of cardboard in front of the radiator to get the motor hot. Let the motor get hot. pull cardboard off. let hot air get to the fan sensor. As the clutch coil starts activating the clutch you should feel a increase in air flow behind the fan.
Note you will not get much air flow across the sensor when the cardboard there.
Allen
Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first.
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Re: testing fan clutch
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07/11/10 12:45 PM
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I don't think anything is wrong with your gauge. Did you try what HealthServices suggested? Don't you think the fan clutch should be much more locked up if your gauge was showing hot? I do.
Last edited by Challenger 1; 07/11/10 12:48 PM.
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Re: testing fan clutch
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07/12/10 06:31 PM
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pop the hood and with the motor not running grab the fan try to give it a good firm spin if it makes a full rotaion its junk it should turn at most 1/2-3/4 turn start it up let itrev it up a few times let it idle thenwhile looking at the fan shut it off it should stop if it spins morn then a turn or 2 after motor dies its junk if its good the first one will tell you as most of mine only turn 1/4 of turn if trying to spin it when cold
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Re: testing fan clutch
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07/13/10 06:43 PM
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Chally1, what type of clutch are you using?
I honestly couldn't remember, just went out and checked. It has the thermal spring on the front. And I just tried to spin it cold and it would only spin about a 1/4 turn, it's pretty stiff.
Sorry it took so long to get back to you.
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Re: testing fan clutch
[Re: solarguy]
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This, I imagine lessons their overall cooling ability compared to either a fixed or thermal clutch type. I would like to hear what others have to say regarding the slippage of the fluid fan clutches
Very good question...
It seems to me I have always been supplied/used the type with the thermostatic spring on the front for the mopars I've worked on over the years.
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Re: testing fan clutch
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07/13/10 06:57 PM
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I wonder what advantage this set up has over a regular bolted on fan?
I believe if you used the 7 blade design fan blade direct drive, it would be very noisy and waste a lot of HP and gas mileage.
They move more air when locked up than a reg direct drive fan and use a clutch to compensate when the max air flow is not needed. That's the advantage to a 7 blade clutch setup. That's my understanding.
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Re: testing fan clutch
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07/13/10 06:59 PM
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the viscus clutch is for less HP/torque loss and less drag when revs go up fast the thermo clutch is more for a HD cooling package and a/c not running grab the fan and see if you can wobble it on the shaft side to side-up and down if it wobbles its bad look for fluid leakage around the shaft and clutch seal..if it leaks its bad if its low on fluid from leakage it will spin freely and is bad I use a thermo clutch and 7 blade fan and replace it every time I replace a wp over kill..probly...over heating...never has
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Re: testing fan clutch
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I use a thermo clutch and 7 blade fan and replace it every time I replace a wp
over kill..probly...over heating...never has
Sounds like good advise, I agree. It should be replaced just like the pump, they do wear out.
I can tell you live in Florida!
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Re: testing fan clutch
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07/13/10 09:15 PM
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i ask for a thermo clutch for a HD cooling pakage on a 78 BB 440 then went to the JY and got a 7 blade fan from a amc hornet 6 cyl clutch fan set up I also replaced the rad in the 85 truck with a 3 core HD cooling replacement rad..all brass no plastic i have to bump the t stat up to 195 in winter to get a little heat run a 180 in summer and it never goes over 190* in traffic you can hear the fan cycle also when idling,takes a few mins and you hear it load up and roar blowing air on the engine side like it speeds up in rpms few mins later it quites down and back to normal till the t stat opens again I can watch the mech temp gauge move up and down with the fan i also use a HD 5/8" shaft wp with 8 vanes with the non a/c pullys the neck will have ribs down it instead of the gatlin gun holes around the shaft if you have a/c pullys use a 6 vane wp they will cavatate if an 8 vane is used with the smaller a/c pullys at higher rpms a/c pully is samller and turns faster at idle to pump x amount of water with 6 vanes non a/c pullys are bigger and turn slower with 8 vanes to pump same x amount of water at idle match the correct parts and use new wp not a reman wp IMHO
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