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K&N air filters #734771
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im running one of those edelbrock 10" chrome air cleaners, and im running a fram CA184 filter and would like a K&N. but i cant find a cross reference chart or anything else, i measured the lids and filter and its like 9 5/8. anyone running a k&n with this a assembly. and is a k&N worth it.

Re: K&N air filters [Re: Haibach Boys] #734772
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I run a K&N filter in an 10" eddie air cleaner

had it about 10 yrs now,2nd chrome air cleaner though

I have cleand the filter 1x so far,it was running ruff in the am on warm ups and very caked up on the outside 5 yrs ago

I picked up a paper eliment while the K&N was air drying for 8-10 $

I had to buy a paper filter about every 2 months then spent the 40$ and got the K&N

I have bought 1 paper eliment since then,and will pick up another one soon so I can clean the K&N for the 2x

saved a lot of $ if you ask me 8-10 $ every 2 months for 10 yrs...you do the math

I have one on the K&N V-stack on the 440 in the sig pic,got it slightly used and is new so it will be a while on cleaning it I am sure

I have oiled the sb one a couple times when it goes dry and grey on the inside..just a little oil around the top edge and it soaks and wicks down on the inside...needs very little oil unless its cleaned

it drys out from heat and dusty conditions,it came with a 1,000,000 mile warranty so I waited 5 yrs to clean it,its due again

I will go look and see if it has a part # on it,and i will check the v-stack...should be the same one as they are both 10" round.i post back later

IIRC I got the sb one for a 225 /6 dart and it is just a tad smaller than the base and lid of the eddie chrome air cleaner


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Re: K&N air filters [Re: scratchnfotraction] #734773
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I get better mileage & performance through the paper element of the same size and no mess with washing and oiling. Went through enough of that BS with the old oil bath air cleaners.


Clean it, if it's Dirty. Oil it, if it Squeaks. But: Don't fix it, if it Works!
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ok have some part #s

sb K&N is A096A6 in the eddie air cleaner

lid is 9 5/8" and the filter I got is 9 1/8"

a tad small for it but works,you can see how much smaller in the pic

I think the next one will fit better maybe

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K&N V stack

part # A090B4

lid is 9 7/8"

filter is tight and also 9 7/8"

maybe that will help

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Re: K&N air filters [Re: MoparforLife] #734777
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I get better mileage & performance through the paper element of the same size and no mess with washing and oiling. Went through enough of that BS with the old oil bath air cleaners.


For everyday driving I put any oiled air filters in the same class as Fram oil filters.

Re: K&N air filters [Re: earlybee] #734778
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im not sure what im gonna do yet. just wish there was an exect replacement, but of course there isnt. and another thing i dont wanta be harassed (because im only 21) for haven a "tuner" air cleaner... the guys i hang out with are very old school dudes. and that a nice new paper filter looks so nice with my white headers. but has anyone heard anything on the new spectre rechargable air cleaners??? only thing that im leary about is everyting spectre that i have ever bought doesnt fit...or work. it's like its only for chebbys....

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Re: K&N air filters [Re: Haibach Boys] #734779
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and another thing i dont wanta be harassed (because im only 21)















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only thing that im leary about is everyting spectre that i have ever bought doesnt fit...or work. it's like its only for chebbys....






spectre Is cheap crap that almost never fits right and ends up looking like hell.

You gone a long way to get the SS look for that car and it's looking a lot better than the last time I saw it in person. My would be go after something that would give you that same vintage look like it belongs there.

What did they use back in the day? Did they even use one

Re: K&N air filters [Re: WILD BILL] #734780
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haha thanks bill. in the last year on second motor. 3rd rear end....the 3:55 posi from mancini.. yeah lasted 6 days and snapped 22 teeth off the spider gears. now a junkyard center section with 2:93 gears. and it works mint!! got 2nd place at the track 2 weeks ago. and got the RMVB in it of course. and the interior is all redone too. hahaha its coming along. and i know what your saying about the S/S look hence thinking about a little velocity stack like on a cross ram max wedge

Re: K&N air filters [Re: WILD BILL] #734781
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If you run in dusty conditions, I would stay with the paper. They look cool and keep rocks from getting in the engine.

Re: K&N air filters [Re: dulcich] #734782
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bunch of K&N haters here

what alt bracket is that on your engine?

looks good anyways

a stub stack with one of the wifes nylons streched over it is better than no air cleaner


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a stub stack with one of the wifes nylons streched over it is better than no air cleaner





Yeah, and it probably filters better

Re: K&N air filters [Re: dulcich] #734784
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Problem with that is he's not married




Re: K&N air filters [Re: WILD BILL] #734785
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Problem with that is he's not married




OK, an old pair of his Fruit of the Looms will work, too. If you position the fly on top, it will open under full throttle conditions.

Re: K&N air filters [Re: Haibach Boys] #734786
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I used to run K&N on everything. I can now say that you're not gaining much with K&N, in fact you're giving up quality filtration. Ever hold a K&N up to the light? See all the small pin holds that dirt can pass through? Now notice all the fine dust on the filtered side of your filter housing; not good.

Still don't believe me? Take a look at the Arlen Spicer ISO 5011 Air Filter Comparison - link

So you'll be better off with a good paper filter. By the way, Champion Laboratories, Inc. makes the air and oil filters for AC Delco. They also make the same filters under the STP brand you can buy for less at Auto Zone.

Or another option if you want an even better filtering/flowing air filter over paper, take a look at Dry cell synthetic nanofiber EaAR Racing Air Filters

Hint: Nanofiber synthetic air filter media is what the U.S. Military selected for the M1 Abrams Tank program.

Re: K&N air filters [Re: Haibach Boys] #734787
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hey man cool car, kind of old school. anyway the K&N thing is a myth. They flow no better than a good paper filter. The key is to get the RIGHT size element. I'd say the 10" is too small unless you get a tall element. Summit sells a nice 13" unit for like $30. Plus the cleaning/oiling is a hassel.


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I like K&N filters way better than paper filters. Cleaning is no hassle for people who aren't lazy. They make the pre-filter wrap for dusty conditions.

They do make a 10" filter or really close to it. I used it on my old Duster for awhile. You can search K&N filters by size on their website.

I'd suggest dumping the 10" setup and go with the K&N 11" Extreme Top filter setup if you have the room under the hood for more airflow.


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Re: K&N air filters [Re: Haibach Boys] #734789
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I run a K&N filter with the K&N top. It worked on My 67 dodge(440 motor) and is now on My 67 plymouth. My only concern on size was the fit of the baseplate on the carb. It fits and is the best air filter, in my opinion, to date

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Re: K&N air filters [Re: terzmo] #734790
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6 haters

you asked,I gave my worthless

up to you on your ride more or less

good luck finding one you like


Re: K&N air filters [Re: scratchnfotraction] #734791
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i got one on loan off my buddys s10 (he told me because its off a chebby it'll 10hp....i then proceeded to smack him.) im gunna try it and see if i like it or not. so far everything seems to be the same. but thank you for all the imput. and the alternator braket is a 66 "poly" 318 bracket... the car was originally a poly 318 and i smoked it, shortly after rebuilding at...a poly doesnt like 5000rpms and the "LA" bolted right in. and a used all original front bracket assemblies, to give it a different flare.

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E-1065 (9.625 dia. x 2.81 high)
E-3670 (9.625 dia. x 3.25 high)

Re: K&N air filters [Re: Haibach Boys] #734793
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People used to think those toilet paper oil filters were good too. I guess a KN would be vastly superior to those stupid foam triangle "air cleaners" that some people use. If you go KN, at least use the prefilter wrap they sell. Otherwise, you might as well dump really fine sand down your engine. Maybe if you need to seat your rings, they might help. Whatever, your engine, your choice.

Re: K&N air filters [Re: broncobra] #734794
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FRAMS are the answer!!! the E-1065 was the filter i got on loan. . and well the lid hits the hood when getting on the 4 barrels. so i guess it was only a dream. so i have been running the fram CA184 on my duster and coronet and guess i'm going to have to continue to use it....like every one says if it works don't fix it.....or something like that.

Re: K&N air filters [Re: broncobra] #734795
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the more dirt that cakes on the outside the finer the dust/dirt it filters with out decreaseing the air flow thru it

more dirt caked on the outside = 1000s more finer air passages thru the filter media the air goes thru

you cant see thru mine right now,thats for sure

now if you let it dry out I could see it not filtering very well

the oil is not gonna let any dust thru if it is kept properly oiled

read the box on theory of operation on how it works,it is to be oiled more often if it is in a real dusty service area and heat will dry it out

so it does need to be serviced from time to time

where I am here in Fl we have lots of dirt roads and dust...paper filters dont cut it every 2 months and mpgs and performance fall right off on mine when the go from white to gray on the paper media

which when I added it up was 100$ a yr x 10 so far thats 1000$ I would have spent...just on air filters...

so 40$ on the K&N 1x and a recharge kit for 10$ 1x for 2 cleanings and 5+ oilings

and it been 10 yrs now = 50$

I have saved a few bucks in the long run,IMHO

to each his own,if it wears out from it not working I will build another and press on with the same 50$ worth of reusable filter

agian just my worthless

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OH! and the extrem filter tops just let in more dust/dirt I suppose

everyone seems to like those and think they are good

I see plenty at car shows,so maybe its just a bling factor to have a K&N fiter any thing


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if its hitting the hood when on the pedel

might want to look at the moder mounts

if it closes with out hitting that is

Re: K&N air filters [Re: scratchnfotraction] #734798
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I agree. A brand new paper filter may perform pretty well in both flow and filtration, but flow has to suffer with use (my body agrees). I'll take my chances with the K&N, Its not like I have a $10K motor that I thrash on dirt roads anyway.

Re: K&N air filters [Re: scratchnfotraction] #734799
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the motor mounts are both new as of 3 days ago!!! haha, amazing that the mounts were new 9 months ago when i did the "LA" swap.. and who woulda thought chinese dura-won't-last mounts will break apart, with only a mild 318. , but they are all new and all tight now , its just a tight fit under the hood.

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you next mod should be one of these

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the six pack...I toyed with the idea didnt have the heart to cut the hood tho.

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or the aero scoop off my gasser project, :laugh

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get another hood and have it cut and painted

i did


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Maybe a good combo would be KN prefilter wrap with an open element paper filter? lol. Seriously, one of the above poster linked a comparison to air filter tests done by an average guy, and that answered my questions once and for all. I used to be a staunch believer in the oiled filters. They do tend to leak a lot of stuff through. You can always blow (with moderate low flow) air from the inside to clean out paper filters to give longer service as well. Here in Nebraska, it is windy and dusty all the time, and it was just a major chore to try and service the pre-oiled type. Maybe if you had 2 of them, one ready to go wrapped in plastic, and when you got ready to clean your other one, just slap it on. and switch back and forth, but still use the prefilter wrap. The air filter on a car is the only thing that works better the dirtier it gets. Until it stops all air flow. Then it is 100% efficient. lol.

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im looking for one. and then put a sled city originall style hemi scoop... just hard to justify the $$$$ for the lame 4 door street car

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once you get the six pac on a hood then you can do up the 8 3/4 in the rear...looks like it sits high enuff

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any mopar is kool in my book no matter how many doors

beating a chebby with a 4 door mopar is pricless

not to hijack you post and get off topic...but while we are a chatting...

got any pics of the gasser project

here is the 68 A-body 8 3/4 in my 88 truck build

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I want one of these on a truck also

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i'd have to take off the trailor hitch off first that does look sick tho!!!

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once you get the six pac on a hood then you can do up the 8 3/4 in the rear...looks like it sits high enuff


That is cool! lol.

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thanks

you can check all the glass etching/art out on my latest progress pics of my truck on the truck page

any gasser pics

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i thought i did. ill have to go though some SD cards and see if a can find them.. but its a 73 duster fiberglass fenders hood bumpers and deck lid, averything gutted inside just the bare essentials. with a 68 a-100 straight axel. and a 440, 727, 8 3/4 with 4:30s. want it to be my low 10 sec street car

Re: K&N air filters [Re: Haibach Boys] #734813
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I've been waiting to see this "gasser" for years now

Do I have to come out there and take the pics myself




As for the lame 4 door

Do I have to tell you again

Yeah I know, I'm not really a fan of 4 doors (or coronets for that matter) but you've built a killer ride there.

Still think you need to paint half the rear wheels like they did back in the day.

Re: K&N air filters [Re: WILD BILL] #734814
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yea some white paint with M&H on them

that gasser sound way koool


Re: K&N air filters [Re: scratchnfotraction] #734815
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Re: K&N air filters [Re: WILD BILL] #734816
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im looking Bill.

Re: K&N air filters [Re: Haibach Boys] #734817
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Before we get ????????

Re: K&N air filters [Re: WILD BILL] #734818
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old one....

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Re: K&N air filters [Re: Haibach Boys] #734819
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thats when i got the s/s springs in it and painted the under side. when i first started working on it... then i move to ohio and was stuck laying under some blue chager for 15 months hahahah

Re: K&N air filters [Re: Haibach Boys] #734820
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Aren't you glad I had the TALL jack stands




Thanks again for all your help

Re: K&N air filters [Re: WILD BILL] #734821
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REAL NICE GUY!!! just because im slightly over weight

Re: K&N air filters [Re: Haibach Boys] #734822
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Quote:

old one....






Anything recent?

I know you've worked on since right?

Re: K&N air filters [Re: WILD BILL] #734823
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yeha i have a little bit. kinda puting it on the back burner since the old man has been outa work since last sept. and it needs to much work to be streetable or drivable. ive been slaping together my old mans 72 duster he has owned since 1980. the car is decent..complete..has a nice black interior a-body 8 3/4 3:55s and a fairbanks racing tranny with a 3000 stall already, and its the cheapest thing for me to get going for him. it'll be a nice little street car for him till a can get finances straightned out.

Re: K&N air filters [Re: scratchnfotraction] #734824
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you cant see thru mine right now,thats for sure

now if you let it dry out I could see it not filtering very well

the oil is not gonna let any dust thru if it is kept properly oiled

read the box on theory of operation on how it works,it is to be oiled more often if it is in a real dusty service area and heat will dry it out

so it does need to be serviced from time to time





I encourage anyone running a K&N air filter to get a Used Oil Analysis done on your next oil change. If your air filter is not doing it’s job, you’ll see it in the motor oil.

Below, the comments of Certified Lubrication Specialist, George Morrison regarding air filtration.

Introduction: The late George Morrison, was a Certified Lubrication Specialist by the Society of Trobologists and Lubrication Engineers as well as the founder and CEO of AV Lubricants, one of the largest Exxon/Mobil distributors in the United States. During his 35 years in the lubricant industry, He worked with such industries as Aviation and Coal Mining assisting with their specific lubricant needs in which hundreds of Used Oil Analysis reports went through his hands a week. As a result, Mr. Morrison was an expert in lubricant and lubricant filtration.

Quotes by Mr. Morrison:

"From a lube engineer's perspective that looks at a hundred or so oil analysis results a day, I would highly recommend you or anyone running a K&N or other aftermarket air filter do an engine oil analysis to determine that the filter is indeed doing its job. I can easily spot a K&N equipped vehicle oil analysis results as in 90% of cases the filter keeps out bricks and birds very effectively but little else. The #1 cause of reduced engine life is dirt. The #1 engine oil alert I look at is dirt. One teaspoon of dirt will destroy a large V-16 CAT engine.. i.e. we need to make sure we have the best filter media, tightest induction system possible to ensure maximum engine life. If you look at a K&N filter you can see through the medium very easily. Supposedly the 'tackifier' grabs the incoming dirt particles. Visualize a dirt particle approaching the filter medium at 100+ MPH: there is NO oil, no tackifier that is going to reach out and capture that particle. Filter face impact velocity is just too great."

"Regarding the "easy 10 hp increase", I would be wary of the claim. A recent VW TDI dyno day revealed that the highest horsepower developed at the rear wheels was for a TDI equipped a paper, OEM equipped VW vs. the foam/paper/K&N, snorkled VW's."

"If you have single digit silicon and low wear metals with your oil analysis results, you are about as good as it gets! That is a general target for dirt: i.e. single digits. If you have this with spectro, you have excellent air filtration with no induction leaks. As for recommendations, I suggest name brand/OEM paper. If a person wants to try another, do an oil analysis with quality paper, then another oil analysis, with particle count, for the aftermarket. This will give a complete picture of exactly how the aftermarket is doing."

Summary: As stated above, Used Oil Analysis is the real world test which proves OR disproves the as advertised filter efficiency claims.

Source cited: Click HERE

Re: K&N air filters [Re: CompSyn] #734825
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When I used to be a member at Dodge Truck World the 5.7L Hemi guys did some dyno testing and actually lost about 2hp and 3 lbs of torque at the rear wheels with a K&N drop-in filter over the OEM paper. Yeah, I have one on my Coronet but, honestly I just have it for show and I keep the paper filter for driving. Just my two cents.

Re: K&N air filters [Re: CompSyn] #734826
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Maybe the aftermarket will come out with a toilet paper roll air filter to match the toilet paper roll oil cleaner! 100% efficiency from the get go! No air movement, and no oil movement. If you don't run a paper filter, the next best thing would be an old style oil bath filter/cleaner. Or, like I jokingly said earlier, a KN prefilter on your paper filter. That gauze with oil really doesn't do much if you check the studies done so far. That guy joking about the pantyhose earlier would probably be better off using that.

Re: K&N air filters [Re: OrangeProwler] #734827
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The KN filter was originally invented in 1964 for SCCA weekend track racing by Ken Johnson and Norm McDonald,
where many were previously running without any air filter protecting the engine, and the oiled cotton gauze was a slightly better choice... the lesser of two evils.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa4078/is_200402/ai_n9350913/

Ken and Norm later sold out for a small fortune in the 1990s.

When totally new and clean,
but without excessive oil,
the KN may have about 2 to 3 inches of water restriction less,
but that it out of about atmosphere all around us total pressure of 404 inches of water pressure.

The Spicer web report previously posted above has good graphs showing this, but also shows how quickly the KN clogs up, and it lesser particle trapping efficiency.

For daily driving use
shouldn't the restriction of a filter be measured out at 5000 to 10000 miles?
Shouldn't you be more interested in the 'real world' restriction during most of the time your engine is 'feeling it' and not just when new?

Re: K&N air filters [Re: 360view] #734828
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please please do not put that 6 pack scoop on that 66. It looks AWFUL!


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Re: K&N air filters [Re: 360view] #734829
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Quote:

The KN filter was originally invented in 1964 for SCCA weekend track racing by Ken Johnson and Norm McDonald,
where many were previously running without any air filter protecting the engine, and the oiled cotton gauze was a slightly better choice... the lesser of two evils.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa4078/is_200402/ai_n9350913/

Ken and Norm later sold out for a small fortune in the 1990s.

When totally new and clean,
but without excessive oil,
the KN may have about 2 to 3 inches of water restriction less,
but that it out of about atmosphere all around us total pressure of 404 inches of water pressure.

The Spicer web report previously posted above has good graphs showing this, but also shows how quickly the KN clogs up, and it lesser particle trapping efficiency.

For daily driving use
shouldn't the restriction of a filter be measured out at 5000 to 10000 miles?
Shouldn't you be more interested in the 'real world' restriction during most of the time your engine is 'feeling it' and not just when new?




Thanks for the info. Great article, great information!

Fortunately for K&N, people still love and use them despite the increasing mountain of data against them.

But hey! Cutting edge 1960s air filter technology on your 1960s Mopar, why not!?!

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