Re: Wideband O2 sensor help on E85
[Re: 69dart]
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06/05/10 08:00 AM
06/05/10 08:00 AM
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In the past with an O2 sensor, I have had it rich enough to actually have the meter read the wrong way on gas. I was told it was the cooling effect of the fuel hitting the sensor. Leaned it out, and the readings came in. Weird, but I have really big injectors for the engine I run.
As for the E85, if your jetting is on par with what others are running and your fuel pressure and float settings are good and its running good, maybe its the placement of the sensor. Are you running full exhaust or open headers?
If your running open headers, you will need extensions to get a good reading at idle with no back pressure, if you can even get them at idle. Pretty tough to get a good idle reading without a little restriction. Had the same problem with mine when I pulled the exhaust to race it, and with efi, it can mess with your tune.
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Re: Wideband O2 sensor help on E85
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06/05/10 08:56 AM
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I'm thinking I may have put the sensor to close to the open end. I welded the bung into my collector extensions but its only a couple inches from the opening.
I am sure your idle readings are nonsense with the sensor that close to the outlet. I have 24" between the sensor and the outlet and that works fine.
If you can get the idle mixture close to 1.0, that will idle the cleanest. For wide open throttle (WOT), Lambda around 0.82-0.86 should be good.
At WOT you might get good readings with the sensor that close, I am not sure. Without my extensions, my sensor is around 8" from the outlet and that worked at WOT, but not at idle. If yours works fine at WOT, you could put a temporary extension pipe on for tuning the idle mixture.
With my LM-1, except for the real time display, you have to download the saved data to the laptop to review it.
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Re: Wideband O2 sensor help on E85
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06/05/10 09:41 AM
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My laptop doesn't have a serial port
Mine doesn't either. But I bought a USB to serial cable from Radio Shack and that works with the LM-1 to download data at the track.
Gigaware, 26-949, 6ft USB to Serial Cable
I have 4" dia collectors, this is where the O2 sensor fitting is, about 8" from the outlet. Originally I would plug the header evac on this side when I was taking data, but after testing it doesn't effect the readings since the evac tube runs slightly downstream (~2") of the sensor. Again, without the extensions, this only worked at WOT, not idle.
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