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To the folks that built this engine: Congrats! Don't let the critics slow you down. "The little dog barks, but the caravan moves on" ----Chinese Proverb Don Terrill www.SpeedTalk.com
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Re: Good Job
[Re: JohnRR]
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12/01/03 07:55 PM
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so guys , do i attempt to bury the hatchet with the MASTER ???
i think it's up to him to bury the hatchett. you could forward gary's version of events to him as an alternative to his hogwash. if he uses it, or rewrites his version, fine, if not, the hatchett lives on...
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Re: Good Job
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12/01/03 08:23 PM
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my burying of the hatchect would involve his removal of his fantasy article from his website at a minimum .
Honestly, how many hits did his website have before this dilemma? If you "Bury The Hatchet",I would think you are admitting de-feat. I respect you and everyone involved in the Engine Masters program.I think all us Moparts members stand behind you guys 110%. Don't think for one minute that Hughes is in the right.Don't sell yourself short...you'll regret it in the long run.
JMHO, Chris
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Re: Good Job
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12/01/03 09:03 PM
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Honestly, how many hits did his website have before this dilemma? If you "Bury The Hatchet",I would think you are admitting de-feat. I respect you and everyone involved in the Engine Masters program.I think all us Moparts members stand behind you guys 110%. Don't think for one minute that Hughes is in the right.Don't sell yourself short...you'll regret it in the long run.
JMHO, Chris
first off, thank you for your support. secondly, i am in complete agreement with the rest of your statements.
for the finale, remember that he SOLD you/us those cams at what appears to be his actual cost. he neither profited, nor lost, a single cent in what he did. in the end many people will read what he posted. this is why i feel he's deviding the mopar community. he had, and still has the opportunity to do the right thing though. will he?, time will tell, but i'm not holding my breath. you know, it's that old saying, what comes around, goes around. mr hughes can now partake of a bit of attitude on our part. i don't feel bad for the abuse he's going to take over this, he chose this path. he can also change it at any time. i got no response from my e-mail to him, that tells me enough. by the way, he should know me by name as many times as we spoke on the phone. i did sign my e-mail. no response indicates to me that he doesn't give a rats behind about my past business with him, or any future business he would have gotten. there are so many options out here for most mopar parts now that i'm pretty confident i can fine another company to do business with. i think it's also likely they'll appreciate my business.
as a final note, after going over the rest of the dyno sheets and scrutinizing all of the info from the competition as well as our test pulls. i can see now that it's very likely we could have made more power with a different cam. in some cases those ultra fast lobes are not what's needed to make max power. we did make 677 hp and 628 tq. on that crap they call 92 octane. if the motor goes back together i think i could spec a better cam for this EM combo.
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Re: Good Job
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12/01/03 09:10 PM
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Wow, I have to admit, I havent been following the EM deal very closely, but I just read through most of the posts on this thing. It seems to me this is just a case of an inflated ego, as Mr. Hughes mentions about the guys on the EM team. He's right, there was a big ego at stake, but he should have been honest and admitted it was his. As far as the love note to the board goes, I counted at least 4 "duh"s, not the kind of crafty wording you would expect from a fairly well respected cam grinder. I am in agreement with the majority of the board, he DID shoot himself in the foot with the stroke of a keyboard. That dog won't hunt with me either.
Back to reading and learning,
JP
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Re: Good Job
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12/02/03 12:38 AM
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welcome don , what may i asked directed you to our little corner of the 'net ???
One of your members pointed out the article and this thread. I just couldn't help but post.
I like it when people stick their necks out, and hate it when others sit on the sidelines and criticize them.
Don Terrill
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Re: Good Job
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12/02/03 12:39 AM
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To the folks that built this engine: Congrats! Don't let the critics slow you down.
"The little dog barks, but the caravan moves on"
----Chinese Proverb
Don Terrill
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Hey Don....  Good to see you registered.  Ryan Johnson........
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Re: Good Job
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12/02/03 01:06 AM
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Don, I like your style!
These from Don's profile at Speedtalk.com
Personality Trait I Admire In People: Action - Someone who accomplishes.
Personality Trait I Dislike In People: Victimitis - The disease of thinking someone else is to blame for how your life turned out.
Man, do those ever fit. You'll make a nice addition to Moparts Don! Welcome.
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Re: Good Job
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12/02/03 01:18 AM
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I agree with the above, you gain nothing by burying the hatchet ... i would hold the grudge, seeing as how he chose to make it personal with us on moparts ... lets see how well hughes does without the support of 6500 members and word of mouth .. COMP CAMS and SCOTT BROWN!
11.48 @ 120 with a 1.80 60' 318, stock 1.88 heads, stock 904, Pump Gas, 13 lbs of boost.
9.94 @ 134, 318 on pump gas, 14 lbs w/ Eddies, transbrake 727, 3600 lbs, 3.54 gear and 28's.
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Re: Hughes Engines comments re: Moparts Engine Mas
[Re: calmopar]
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12/02/03 01:23 AM
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After reading this post it is obvious to me , this "Hughes" character is a real dic% in plain english...just my 2 cents.
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Re: Good Job
[Re: topfueldart]
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12/02/03 10:01 AM
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you gain nothing by burying the hatchet ...
Actually by burying the hatchet you gain the respect of those that realize you are a class act. It is easy to hold a grudge, not so easy to let it go.
At this point it is no longer what *that* person said. He has already dug his hole. Very few of those that have read this topic are going to support *that* business.
How does holding a grudge improve the situation in any way? Unless of course someone gains a sense of betterment by feeding the flames of anger. I think the point has been made.
That is my opinion at least 
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Re: Good Job
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12/02/03 10:10 AM
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any burying of the hatchect would only involve removal of this topic and his article , nothing more on my part . after that the cards fall where they may . he made his bed , he has to lie in it .
running up my post count some more .
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Re: Good Job
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12/02/03 11:07 AM
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I like that idea John, but judging from his past actions...Huey ain't gonna play dat.
He'll want something in return, or plain refuse to do it.
Worth a shot, but could result in more pain with no gain.
Rich H.
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