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440 crank ID? #70433 06/09/08 01:24 PM 06/09/08 01:24 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,722 Moved to N.E. Tennessee GomangoCuda OP master
GomangoCuda OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,722 Moved to N.E. Tennessee	I have come across a "67" 440 that has some mixed parts. The Dampener is for a forged internal balance engine as it should be in "67" but the flywheel is the externally balanced item used with the "70" and up 6pk style rods. My first thought is to put a neutral balance flywheel on it but who knows maybe the rotating assembly is from a later engine and the balancer is the part that is wrong. So, do I have to pull the pan to know for sure or is there a dead giveaway in the shape of the crank flange perhaps? Thanks In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.

Re: 440 crank ID? [Re: GomangoCuda] #70434 06/09/08 03:32 PM 06/09/08 03:32 PM
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dogdays I Live Here D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376	There is no difference in the appearance of the forged 6-bolt cranks so you have to pull the pan. R

Re: 440 crank ID? [Re: dogdays] #70435 06/09/08 04:09 PM 06/09/08 04:09 PM
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hemi_harvester master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,449 Gateway to the West.	IS the crank drilled for a pilot bearing? IF its not drilled it could be a cast crank also, which is exterally balanced too. There comes a time in life, when you walk away from all the drama & people who create it. You surround yourself with people who make you laugh, forget the bad, and focus on the good.

Re: 440 crank ID? [Re: dogdays] #70436 06/09/08 04:30 PM 06/09/08 04:30 PM
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JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,012 U.S.S.A.	Quote: There is no difference in the appearance of the forged 6-bolt cranks so you have to pull the pan. R what he said . the flywheel is probably because someone didn't know better , i had an external balance flywheel on my 383 dart because the previous owner had a clutch job done and whoever did it didn't want to wait to have the original wheel cut and just used another . Last edited by Johnrr; 06/09/08 10:16 PM.

Re: 440 crank ID? [Re: JohnRR] #70437 06/09/08 06:05 PM 06/09/08 06:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,722 Moved to N.E. Tennessee GomangoCuda OP master
GomangoCuda OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,722 Moved to N.E. Tennessee	Quote: Quote: There is no difference in the appearance of the forged 6-bolt cranks so you have to pull the pan. R what he said . the flywheel is probably because someone didn't know better , i had an extrnal bbalnce flywheel on my 383 dart because the previous owner had a clutch job done and whoever did it didn't want to wait to have the original wheel cut and just used another . That's exactly what I think happened because it is a 67 block with 915 heads in a 70 ebody. The flywheel is correct for the car but the engine is not. I have a new 130 tooth neutral balance flywheel that I plan on putting on it but I couldn't remember whether there was an easy way to tell about the crank for sure. Apparently not. I also have an old Moroso oilpan. Maybe this would be a good time to swap it on as well so that I can check the internals. Thanks all In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.

Re: 440 crank ID? [Re: GomangoCuda] #70438 06/09/08 10:17 PM 06/09/08 10:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,012 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,012 U.S.S.A.	see the new england cruise thread and the pics of kudakids duster BEFORE installing that pan

Re: 440 crank ID? [Re: JohnRR] #70439 06/10/08 01:09 PM 06/10/08 01:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,722 Moved to N.E. Tennessee GomangoCuda OP master
GomangoCuda OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,722 Moved to N.E. Tennessee	Quote: see the new england cruise thread and the pics of kudakids duster BEFORE installing that pan Yea, I haven't even looked yet but I know what I am going to see. That's the reason I didn't put it on a long time ago. I wish the Ebody hemi pan wasn't made out of gold. Over $200 for a repro pan and pickup seems a bit excessive when they sell the cheap (chinese?)deep pans for less than $50. I would even buy a well used pan if I could find one. I don't need perfect, just functional. In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.

Re: 440 crank ID? [Re: GomangoCuda] #70440 06/10/08 01:36 PM 06/10/08 01:36 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,012 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,012 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Quote: see the new england cruise thread and the pics of kudakids duster BEFORE installing that pan Yea, I haven't even looked yet but I know what I am going to see. That's the reason I didn't put it on a long time ago. I wish the Ebody hemi pan wasn't made out of gold. Over $200 for a repro pan and pickup seems a bit excessive when they sell the cheap (chinese?)deep pans for less than $50. I would even buy a well used pan if I could find one. I don't need perfect, just functional. what pan is currently on your engine ? i have a couple of slightly used ones i'm looking to trade

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