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30 plymouth , sway bar help? leans bad in turns #700290 05/17/10 09:53 AM 05/17/10 09:53 AM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,349 warfordsburg, PA dirt OP pro stock
dirt OP pro stock Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,349 warfordsburg, PA	i built a 30 plymouth sedan and used the fat man front suspension up front. and the oroginal springs in the rear with new bushings in them, changed the rear axle to a newer one and used shocks that i ordered for a cordoba with coils over them . the car seems to lean a lot in turns and dosent handel all that well. it sits at almost the factory height, may be 2" lower than stock. i was wondering if anyone has tried sway bars to help this? and if so did you use something from another car or a universal type like summit sells? thanks.

Re: 30 plymouth , sway bar help? leans bad in turns [Re: dirt] #700291 05/17/10 08:00 PM 05/17/10 08:00 PM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 12,481 Chino Valley RodStRace I Live Here
RodStRace I Live Here Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 12,481 Chino Valley	try asking fat man. If it's a MII style, there are a bunch of choices that may work..

Re: 30 plymouth , sway bar help? leans bad in turns [Re: RodStRace] #700292 05/18/10 09:51 AM 05/18/10 09:51 AM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,349 warfordsburg, PA dirt OP pro stock
dirt OP pro stock Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,349 warfordsburg, PA	i called fat mans. they said to try a rear sway bar. and there was nothing off the shelf to fit the front i would have to make something to work there also if i wanted a front bar.

Re: 30 plymouth , sway bar help? leans bad in turns [Re: dirt] #700293 05/18/10 10:20 AM 05/18/10 10:20 AM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 12,481 Chino Valley RodStRace I Live Here
RodStRace I Live Here Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 12,481 Chino Valley	Kenny, since your last name is the same as the business in your signature, I'd say you need to build one then! from page 17 of their catalog (late 20s to early 30s) Quote: We do not offer a front sway bar since these vehicles typically have the engine far enough behind the front axle centerline that you will have more than half the total vehicle weight on the rear axle. That prevents the understeer a front sway bar would be used to cure. We do recommend a rear sway bar into your build plan, since the rear weight bias and high center of gravity will tend to create body roll and oversteer. also found this: http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/sway-bar-4-mustang-ii-ifs-1954-f100-12561.html Brent is a member over on the HAMB, but has not been on since Dec of last year. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=227039 http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/member.php?u=34864

Re: 30 plymouth , sway bar help? leans bad in turns [Re: RodStRace] #700294 05/21/10 11:33 PM 05/21/10 11:33 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,757 levittown pa fstfish66 top fuel
fstfish66 top fuel Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,757 levittown pa	fat mans sway bars are made by compitition engineering if i rememebr correctly,, comp could care less about mopars,,,, fat man has a page with drawlings and deminsions on sway bars,,, i used it when fitting a rear bar to my 40 dodge,,,ended up using one from a late 30s chevy,,that pictured late 40s ford rear shock set up that was exactly the same as my 40 dodge rear shock set up,,the bar fat man wanted me to use was a universal and wouldnt clear my already finished exhaust.. Last edited by fstfish66; 05/21/10 11:34 PM. 1966 barracuda prostreeter super charged 340(SOLD) 1940 dodge coupe 241 hemi street rod 2014 ram express hemi 4x4 dailey driver 2015 cherokee 2013 R/T classic

Re: 30 plymouth , sway bar help? leans bad in turns [Re: fstfish66] #700295 05/28/10 01:46 AM 05/28/10 01:46 AM
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stateline pro stock S Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,294 Under the big sky	I used one off the rear of a late 90s Ford Explorer, I used the axle mounting brackets from a Bronco 2, Ranger PU brackets work too, The 1953 Hudson I put it on is pretty narrow in the rear, you might check and see if the Explorer one is close- pic attached 6007120-Picture019(Small).jpg (91 downloads) Last edited by stateline; 05/28/10 01:49 AM.

Re: 30 plymouth , sway bar help? leans bad in turns [Re: stateline] #700296 05/28/10 01:49 AM 05/28/10 01:49 AM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,757 levittown pa fstfish66 top fuel
fstfish66 top fuel Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,757 levittown pa	Quote: I used one off the rear of a late 90s Ford Explorer, I used the axle mounting brackets from a Bronco two, Ranger PU brackets work too, The 1953 Hudson I put it on is pretty narrow in the rear, you might check and see if the Explorer one is close- pic attached nice looking conversion,,,the upper shock mounts stock location or did you have to modify alll that for the upp sway bar links?? 1966 barracuda prostreeter super charged 340(SOLD) 1940 dodge coupe 241 hemi street rod 2014 ram express hemi 4x4 dailey driver 2015 cherokee 2013 R/T classic

Re: 30 plymouth , sway bar help? leans bad in turns [Re: fstfish66] #700297 05/28/10 07:56 AM 05/28/10 07:56 AM
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dirt OP pro stock Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,349 warfordsburg, PA	i ordered the universal one from chassis engineering hope it helps the problem.

Re: 30 plymouth , sway bar help? leans bad in turns [Re: dirt] #700298 05/28/10 12:23 PM 05/28/10 12:23 PM
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fstfish66 top fuel Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,757 levittown pa	Quote: i ordered the universal one from chassis engineering hope it helps the problem. the universal one from them is shaped like a giant U can be mounted to the frame and the links can be mounted to the leaf spring pad or to a tab on the axel housing, or competely backwards of that,,,the bar to the axel and the links to the frame,, 1966 barracuda prostreeter super charged 340(SOLD) 1940 dodge coupe 241 hemi street rod 2014 ram express hemi 4x4 dailey driver 2015 cherokee 2013 R/T classic

Re: 30 plymouth , sway bar help? leans bad in turns [Re: fstfish66] #700299 05/28/10 02:28 PM 05/28/10 02:28 PM
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stateline pro stock S Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,294 Under the big sky	Quote: Quote: I used one off the rear of a late 90s Ford Explorer, I used the axle mounting brackets from a Bronco two, Ranger PU brackets work too, The 1953 Hudson I put it on is pretty narrow in the rear, you might check and see if the Explorer one is close- pic attached nice looking conversion,,,the upper shock mounts stock location or did you have to modify alll that for the upp sway bar links?? Lucked out on that one , just used longer bolts on the upper shock mounts

Re: 30 plymouth , sway bar help? leans bad in turns [Re: stateline] #700300 05/29/10 12:08 AM 05/29/10 12:08 AM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,757 levittown pa fstfish66 top fuel
fstfish66 top fuel Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,757 levittown pa	Quote: Quote: Quote: I used one off the rear of a late 90s Ford Explorer, I used the axle mounting brackets from a Bronco two, Ranger PU brackets work too, The 1953 Hudson I put it on is pretty narrow in the rear, you might check and see if the Explorer one is close- pic attached nice looking conversion,,,the upper shock mounts stock location or did you have to modify alll that for the upp sway bar links?? Lucked out on that one , just used longer bolts on the upper shock mounts my 40 dodge is set up like that using the upper shock mount for the sway bar link,,all tho i had new heavy upper mounting studs machined to accept every thing,,looks like u have a nice set up there 1966 barracuda prostreeter super charged 340(SOLD) 1940 dodge coupe 241 hemi street rod 2014 ram express hemi 4x4 dailey driver 2015 cherokee 2013 R/T classic

Re: 30 plymouth , sway bar help? leans bad in turns [Re: fstfish66] #700301 08/02/10 12:09 AM 08/02/10 12:09 AM
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dirt OP pro stock Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,349 warfordsburg, PA	got the sway bar on and it made a whole lot of difference! drives much better now.

Re: 30 plymouth , sway bar help? leans bad in turns [Re: dirt] #700302 08/03/10 09:21 AM 08/03/10 09:21 AM
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36PLYM enthusiast 3 Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 251 Lithonia, Ga	Have you got a part number or link for the sway bar? Need one on the 36. Thanks! 36 Plymouth Coupe 318 w/360 heads 518 trans 8 3/4 rear Ga. Tech BCE'78

Re: 30 plymouth , sway bar help? leans bad in turns [Re: 36PLYM] #700303 08/03/10 10:46 AM 08/03/10 10:46 AM
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dirt OP pro stock Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,349 warfordsburg, PA	i used a chassis engineering universal sway bar,call and tell them how wide you need it and they will hook you up. It had mounts that attached to the rear axle and weld on tabs to weld to the frame. it made a lot of difference in turns and general handeling just driving around, and changing lanes on the interstate. chassis engineering sway bar link

Re: 30 plymouth , sway bar help? leans bad in turns [Re: 36PLYM] #700304 08/04/10 02:23 AM 08/04/10 02:23 AM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,757 levittown pa fstfish66 top fuel
fstfish66 top fuel Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,757 levittown pa	Quote: Have you got a part number or link for the sway bar? Need one on the 36. Thanks! they have several to choose from,,a lot depends on the lay out under your car,shocks/exhaust/frame or axel width/ i used one designed for a 37 chevy on my 40 dodge, its the same bar fat man uses on 46 47 48 fords, the bar i used mounts under the axel and the links go to a stud i had made that doubles as the upper shock mount and upper sway bar link mount,, the sway bar wraps around the lower shock mounting and ends up as wide as the inside deminsion of my frame rails,,shaped like a U with a hook on each end,, car is in storage so no pics ,,hope to have it back in my garage end of sept,,, 1966 barracuda prostreeter super charged 340(SOLD) 1940 dodge coupe 241 hemi street rod 2014 ram express hemi 4x4 dailey driver 2015 cherokee 2013 R/T classic

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