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Motor mount and oil pan questions #685417
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I am working on a 73 Satellite originally a 318/904 car. I am putting a 78 motorhome 440/727 in it. Do I need to buy the shumaker motor mounts for it or can I just use these complete mounts from autozone http://www.autozone.com/autozone/catalog...ext=motor+mount

also the oil pan I have is a 187 do I need the 971 pan or will this pan work. I know I need to change the tranny tail shaft but I'm not to that point yet

Re: Motor mount and oil pan questions [Re: Boise Chall] #685418
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All I can say is if they are the Poly Schumacher mounts, they will feel very close to solid. I personally had them in for one day.

Mancini Racing has a Magnum mount which I recommend.

Re: Motor mount and oil pan questions [Re: Viol8r] #685419
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I'm pretty sure the autozone ones are rubber

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From memory the mounts themselves are the same for a BB. Its the brackets which are different. I'm pretty sure you need the BB brackets + mounts that Schumacher sells or original BB brackets for that generation B body.

There are probably some pics on Schumacher's site to help sort it out.

Re: Motor mount and oil pan questions [Re: Viol8r] #685421
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Quote:

All I can say is if they are the Poly Schumacher mounts, they will feel very close to solid. I personally had them in for one day.

Mancini Racing has a Magnum mount which I recommend.




I had both Schumachers in for about an hour. Then replaced the passenger side with stock. 80-90% of the vibration went away and the benefit of the mount remains. Thats the way to go. Notice that they won't sell them in singles though!

Re: Motor mount and oil pan questions [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #685422
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the ones from autozone are the mounts and the brackets. has anybody used these in this type of application before

Re: Motor mount and oil pan questions [Re: Boise Chall] #685423
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I'll take that as a NO on the motor mounts. Anybody know if my oil pan will work???

Re: Motor mount and oil pan questions [Re: Boise Chall] #685424
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I just bought mounts for my '71 charger (different mount)

You will need the big block brackets and the mounts on the Auto Zone site look like what you need.
My preferance is a rubber mount if it's a street car.

Oil pan, I think any center sump should work. I bought a 933 and a stock pick up for mine. Motor and trans was out of a Dodge 300 Van Ambulance.

Re: Motor mount and oil pan questions [Re: roadhazard] #685425
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I think that everyone here is missing the point. Didn't they switch to spool type mounts in 1973 or was that A bodies only? The spool mounts are different from small block to big block, right?
I pulled a few motor home 440 engines, NONE of them had the center sump oil pan that is used in cars. The repro pans are available, but most any car oil pan will work as long as it has a center sump.

Re: Motor mount and oil pan questions [Re: Kern Dog] #685426
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I think that everyone here is missing the point. Didn't they switch to spool type mounts in 1973 or was that A bodies only? The spool mounts are different from small block to big block, right?
I pulled a few motor home 440 engines, NONE of them had the center sump oil pan that is used in cars. The repro pans are available, but most any car oil pan will work as long as it has a center sump.





I'm pretty sure that the 73 B-Bodies used the spool mounts.

You will need the correct engine mount brackets (that bolt to the block) for a big block.
You'll need a center sump oil pan too, whether it's a stock pan or aftermarket (with the matching oil pickup tube).


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My 318 had the spool type mounts. Am I missing something or is this the spool mount and bracket http://www.autozone.com/autozone/catalog...p;parentId=43-0

The bracket bolts to the motor and the spool end goes to the K-frame right?

Re: Motor mount and oil pan questions [Re: Boise Chall] #685428
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Yes. The mounts look like a traditional # 6 when in the correct position. RockAuto has them as well, but be advised, they show the same part # for 318 and 360 engines, though the original left side is clearly different. My point is that you need to know that unless you pull the mounts from a big block car yourself, the aftermarket parts may be categorized incorrectly.

Re: Motor mount and oil pan questions [Re: Kern Dog] #685429
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You will need the schumacher conversion mounts. The mounting ears on the k-frame are in a different spot on small block vs big block k-frames for 73+ B bodies. The schumacher conversion mounts correct for this. At first I ran the wrong mounts in mine, just the regular BB spool mounts(same as the autozone ones you're looking at) and it made my 440 sit way too high in the front and too far forward. Installed the schumacher conversion mounts and now the positioning of the 440 is WAY better. You need the passenger car center sump oil pan/pickup. Originally I ran a center sump pan that came stock on my 76 440, later changed to a 440source 7 quart center sump pan/pickup.

If you want your 440 to sit perfect in the engine bay, either get the schumacher mounts and forget about those autozone mounts or buy those autozone mounts and swap in a big block k-frame.

Re: Motor mount and oil pan questions [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #685430
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There are times to save and times to spend. I'd rather have my motor sit in the car correctly rather than to have to fab up new trans shifter linkage, Change the drive shaft, throttle cable, trans cooler lines and whatever else...

Re: Motor mount and oil pan questions [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #685431
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Thank you I was trying to cheap out but I will order the shumaker mounts. My oil pan is a passenger car center sump so I will try it. I have the 440 source pan on my 72 Challenger man it hangs down low. I'm always afraid I am going to rip it off.







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