Did compression test,not happy,Can someone diagnose?
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04/24/10 09:06 PM
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400-2v in my 73 Truck. Test was done after engine was run for about 10 minutes.Exhaust manifolds were still warm to the touch,but not HOT.
Pulled all plugs and had the pedal to the floor as I cranked the engine over. I counted to 8 on each cylinder as I cranked the engine over.
Results are as follows:
Cylinder 1.----90
Cylinder 2.----90
Cylinder 3.----60
Cylinder 4.----100
Cylinder 5.----110
Cylinder 6.----105
Cylinder 7.----100
Cylinder 8.----30
On the 2 low cylinders,I tested them at least 3 times as I thought I may not have the tester fully seated. All 3 times on those low cylinders,the numbers remained the same each time.
What might my issue be,and where do I go from here to repair this issue?
Dont know if it matters,but yesterday I pulled all the plugs out,shot each with carb cleaner as they were all fuel fouled,regapped em and reinstalled.
Today when I pulled em back out 3 of the 8 were sooty black and the rest were nice and brown(normal color)
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Re: Did compression test,not happy,Can someone diagnose?
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#679330
04/24/10 10:00 PM
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Compression is pretty low, but consistent for all but two cylinders. Bring the suspect cylinder to TDC and add compressed air through the spark plug hole. Listen at the carb, tailpipe, oil fill and radiater. The sound of air leaking out the carb is a bad intake valve, tailpipe - exhaust valve, breather - rings, bubbles in radiator - cracked block/head or bad head gasket (unlikely in your scenario). Repeat for other low cylinder. You could also do a good cylinder for comparison on sounds. A poor-mans leak-down test. A pair of heads should fix it for a while if the rings are OK.
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Re: Did compression test,not happy,Can someone diagnose?
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04/25/10 06:00 AM
04/25/10 06:00 AM
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I will refer to my last post on your other thred when you concluded it was a vac leak I said a "burnt valve" leak down test is in order along with a valve job so...am I right now?
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Re: Did compression test,not happy,Can someone diagnose?
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04/25/10 01:02 PM
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I will refer to my last post on your other thred when you concluded it was a vac leak
I said a "burnt valve"
leak down test is in order along with a valve job
so...am I right now?
Ok ok ,I stepped on my d*** when I concluded that it was "only" a vacuum leak causing the issue.
It ran much better after I tightened the carb,so I thought I had the problem licked.
I then remembered about the compression test and figured I would cover all bases,which is what I should have done in the first place.
So now I know the truck runs "better" because I fixed the vacuum leak,but the truck has ALOT more improvement in it once I get the valve issues repaired.
I apologize for saying it was "Only" a vacuum leak causing the problem when in fact it was a burned valve issue as you suggested.
Again I thank you for your suggestion and hope I ruffled no feathers for "jumping the gun" on my diagnosis and concluding the problem was something other than what you had suggested.
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Re: Did compression test,not happy,Can someone diagnose?
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04/26/10 08:06 AM
04/26/10 08:06 AM
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I was just jokin with ya got to rule out mech failurs before you tune Vac leak was a big part of the problem also,you ruled that mech problem out,and the weak cyls showed up a lot better..as it was not the whole fix It was just a guess,i have had a bunch of old worn out engines chased a miss for a long time on some of them till I removed the heads and could see the valve on run the poop out of it,but it can get worse and cause more damage if you want to keep and salvage any of it a sucked/droped valve is not pretty did you do the air pressure check and "listen" to it?
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Re: Did compression test,not happy,Can someone diagnose?
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04/26/10 10:28 AM
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I havent done the "leakdown" test yet. I have a friend with a Compressor,and plan on talking to him about helping me do this.
you can take your compression tester hose and take out the shrader valve (just like a tire valve stem core) then run some air in and listen for where it's escaping. It wont give you percentage #'s like a leakdown gauge will but it'll tell you where especially if it's mainly from one area where you can hear it distinctly. carb (intake valve), tailpipe (exhaust valve), rad (head gasket/cracked head/block but highly unlikely on the last 2), oil fill neck (rings). EDIT each cyl you check have it on TDC compression
Last edited by RapidRobert; 04/26/10 05:13 PM.
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