Still having problems with the popping in the carb
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04/18/10 10:53 PM
04/18/10 10:53 PM
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Im almost at my wits end on this engine.
Refresher:
Engine is a 90k mile original 400-2v in a 73 Dodge Truck. The engine lacks power and pops and backfires in the intake when attempting to accelerate,even under light acceleration.Has very little power,but will drive normally if you "baby" it.
The Dizzy Cap,Rotor,plug wires are all new,the firing order is correct on the cap and on the plugs. The plugs,although not brand new,have a nice normal dry brown color to them.Checked the timing and its correct.
Under advisement of someone,I replaced the Timing chain and gears,thinking this may have been the cause of the trouble. Once I did this I realized the old timing gears and chain were probably just fine.Put it all back together and the truck still pops in what sounds like the intake when attempting to accelerate.
Ive pulled the Valve cover on the drivers bank of the engine and the inside of the valve cover and the valvetrain looks VERY Clean... Not one bit of Sludge. Ive pulled the rocker shaft on the drivers side and removed and inspected the Pushrods on that side one at a time,theyre all straight on the drivers side.
I have pulled the valve cover on the passenger side,but ran out of light,so ill have to pull the rocker shaft tomorrow so I can inspect the push rods.
"IF" I inspect the pushrods on the passenger side and they all appear straight and normal,where else can I look to try and figure out whats causing this engine to run so poorly?
Could the cam have gone flat on a lobe? Stuck lifter? Bent Valve?
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Last edited by SPWC; 04/18/10 11:03 PM.
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Re: Still having problems with the popping in the carb
[Re: SPWC]
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04/18/10 11:37 PM
04/18/10 11:37 PM
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(1) vac leak (2) borrow another known good carb for a road test
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Re: Still having problems with the popping in the carb
[Re: Joshs68]
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04/19/10 05:47 AM
04/19/10 05:47 AM
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Remove the air cleaner and watch down the carb for a squirt of fuel while you open the throttle. Sounds like a bad accelerator pump. No cost to try and easy to do. If not that bad power valve or its equivalent if not a Holley. Smooth running if you baby it is a clue. Ron
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Re: Still having problems with the popping in the carb
[Re: DusterMan]
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04/19/10 07:46 AM
04/19/10 07:46 AM
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comp test is in order first to see the cyls across the board ' then a leak down test had a couple do this,sure cant tune a bad valve/miss out of an engine with a tune up
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Re: Still having problems with the popping in the carb
[Re: Kern Dog]
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04/19/10 09:12 AM
04/19/10 09:12 AM
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Quote:
Its NOT a vacuum leak. When symptoms like this occur, its nice when it is that easy. When a popping up through the carb is detected, it is often something else. Exhaust is being forced into the intake. The cause is one or more worn EXHAUST lobes on the camshaft. During normal light duty cruise, cylinder pressure is low. The limited opening of the exhaust valves poses little problem. When you lay into the throttle, cylinder pressure increases. The cylinder cannot evacuate the exhaust as normal. The popping you hear happens when the piston is on its upstroke during the exhaust cycle. When any cam lobe is worn, the valve opens late, lifts less and closes early. In your case the piston is still rising. when the intake valve opens , the trapped exhaust gases are forced into the intake tract. this makes you lose power . Remove the valve covers again and run the engine. Pay close attention to the rocker arms to each exhaust valve. Look for one or more to have less movement than the intake rockers next to them. You should find the problem there.
Very good frankenduster, I was going to suggest the very same thing until I saw your post. Someone here finally understands the dynamics of an internal combustion engine.
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Re: Still having problems with the popping in the carb
[Re: GODSCOUNTRY340]
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04/19/10 01:05 PM
04/19/10 01:05 PM
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Well I have taken a :40 second video of the engine running with the valve covers removed. I see about equal movement of all rockers,although if you focus on one particular rocker it appears the others arent moving. If you guys will take a quick look at my video clip and tell me if the movement of the rockers is normal or weak,and maybe conclude whether I have a flat cam or not...This would be appreciated. Link to the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxHTp6SuO68
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Re: Still having problems with the popping in the carb
[Re: SPWC]
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04/19/10 04:34 PM
04/19/10 04:34 PM
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looking at the rockers they all seem to stop and go at times looking at 1 it does it like you mentioned so I looked at a couple diff ones and it seems to do it on all of them looking one at a time does look dry also my vote is still on a comp test and burnt leaky valve or collapsed lifter
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