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High capacity oil pumps #661102
04/04/10 10:35 PM
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Hello,

I am new to this forum and was looking for some information.

I am in the process of resto-moding a '73 Duster and am working on building up a short block 5.2L Magnum.

I have heard conflicting information concerning the oil pump and pan to use.

I am shooting for 300 horsepower and am unsure if the stock capacity pump will be okay. Can a HV pump be used with a stock capacity pan? Or will I need a deep-sump type (I'm leaning toward Milodon)

Any help would be appreciated.

Re: High capacity oil pumps [Re: stryker63] #661103
04/04/10 10:52 PM
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I am new to this forum and am unsure if the stock capacity pump will be okay. Can a HV pump be used with a stock capacity pan? Or will I need a deep-sump type.


(1) welcome aboard (2) stock capacity (std vol) pump is plenty adequate, hi vol pumps waste power and can excessively wear gears/hex and have been known to snap inter shaft hexes & not needed unless have large clearances/modded passages (3) sure, you wont pump a pan dry as the passages will only flow so much whether you have 30 or 90 psi) (4) deep sump not needed


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Re: High capacity oil pumps [Re: RapidRobert] #661104
04/05/10 12:15 AM
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I am new to this forum and am unsure if the stock capacity pump will be okay. Can a HV pump be used with a stock capacity pan? Or will I need a deep-sump type.


(1) welcome aboard (2) stock capacity (std vol) pump is plenty adequate, hi vol pumps waste power and can excessively wear gears/hex and have been known to snap inter shaft hexes & not needed unless have large clearances/modded passages (3) sure, you wont pump a pan dry as the passages will only flow so much whether you have 30 or 90 psi) (4) deep sump not needed






oil pressure is what protects the motor from failure. This is produced by squeezing a volume of oil through the bearing clearances. More oil, more pressure.

Hence, a high volume pump is only needed on a motor that has excessive clearance.(your fresh motor will have tight clearances, that require a volume of oil that would most accurately match a std volume pump) HV pumps were developed to improve oil pressure in worn out motor's, NOT to provide better oiling in performance builds.

FWIW I run a standard pump on my 440. It always has lot's of oil pressure. If the pressure is right with a std volume pump, then that is all you need

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Re: High capacity oil pumps [Re: dave571] #661105
04/05/10 12:26 AM
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ANOTHER vote ferr a stock oil-pump ... B U T I will differ in opinion on the oil pan.

Most ordinary bone-stock pans .... lack any decent baffles or doors. I would spend some $$$ on a decent pan that ALSO have a couple more quarts capacity.

Re: High capacity oil pumps [Re: dOc …] #661106
04/05/10 12:54 AM
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Thanks for the info...

As I understand it, the Milodon stock replacment pan has baffles built in, that seems the best route without going to a deep sump (which I may not have clearance for as I am considering an air-ride suspension eventually).







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