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vin # question .....warning ...may be a stupid question #659454 04/02/10 11:10 PM 04/02/10 11:10 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 936 own private Idaho N ngpSatellite OP super stock
ngpSatellite OP super stock N Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 936 own private Idaho	I have a car with the vin tag rp23f75138* and a fender tag rp23415485217***.... fender tag matches the rad support #s and my vin matches the title..... shouldn't the vin match the fender tag??

Re: vin # question .....warning ...may be a stupid question [Re: ngpSatellite] #659455 04/02/10 11:38 PM 04/02/10 11:38 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,543 chicagoland,usa B buildanother I Live Here
buildanother I Live Here B Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,543 chicagoland,usa	Not on a 67. The numbers on lower right of fender tag should match the stamped numbers on core support though.

Re: vin # question .....warning ...may be a stupid question [Re: ngpSatellite] #659456 04/02/10 11:40 PM 04/02/10 11:40 PM
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340dart4spd Parts Problem 3 Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,476	Quote: I have a car with the vin tag rp23f75138* and a fender tag rp23415485217***.... fender tag matches the rad support #s and my vin matches the title..... shouldn't the vin match the fender tag?? It's a FAKE CALL THE VIN POLICE.....lol

Re: vin # question .....warning ...may be a stupid question [Re: 340dart4spd ] #659457 04/03/10 08:54 AM 04/03/10 08:54 AM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,060 Pendleton NY T terzmo top fuel
terzmo top fuel T Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,060 Pendleton NY	Quote: Quote: I have a car with the vin tag rp23f75138* and a fender tag rp23415485217***.... fender tag matches the rad support #s and my vin matches the title..... shouldn't the vin match the fender tag?? It's a FAKE CALL THE VIN POLICE.....lol YEP...call the police..they'll impound the car and you may lose it. Great suggestion. A problem to civilians may NOT be an issue the cops want to get involved with or handle sensitivley. They get paid by the hour,like most other's, and make a judgement call on the spot on how to handle situations. Most by the book,some the way they feel it SHOULD be done. Soon as one thing is done,they can press on to whatever they do between calls. Do You really need them involved ?

Re: vin # question .....warning ...may be a stupid question [Re: terzmo] #659458 04/03/10 08:58 AM 04/03/10 08:58 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,336 South-Central (Sebring), FL Commando1 master
Commando1 master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,336 South-Central (Sebring), FL	Bottom line: Can you register it and get a title??? If yes.... Dont worry about it.

Re: vin # question .....warning ...may be a stupid question [Re: terzmo] #659459 04/03/10 09:02 AM 04/03/10 09:02 AM
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HemidaveZ member H Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 35	First start with what year is the car. Then the experts on here can be very helpful. Get your facts tegether then decide what to do.

Re: vin # question .....warning ...may be a stupid question [Re: ngpSatellite] #659460 04/03/10 09:08 AM 04/03/10 09:08 AM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,407 S.E. Florida, USA rrunner master
rrunner master Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,407 S.E. Florida, USA	Can you post a pic of the #'s on the fender tag? In 67 the vin is not on the fender tag. Car line and body style yes (rp23) The only thing that can tie a vin and fender tag together is the build sheet. When it comes to fender tags most who don't know seem to think all are like 69 and later. Your 67 has a shipping order #'s not vin sequence #'s Last edited by rrunner; 04/03/10 09:13 AM.

Re: vin # question .....warning ...may be a stupid question [Re: rrunner] #659461 04/03/10 10:28 AM 04/03/10 10:28 AM
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RSI700VIPER super stock R Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,149 NW New Jersey	Not to steal this post, but a buddy of mine had a 1970 Challenger 440 car. The dash tag matched the title and door decal. Something like JS23U0B187050 (not sure of the last 4 numbers). HOWEVER, the fender tag number was JS23U0B207050 and the body numbers were 0B207050. Thats right. The first 2 digits of the sequence number were "18XXXX" on the title, dash & door tag, and "20XXXX" on the fender tag and body numbers. The last 4 digits of the sequense and all other numbers match. The body had all the right parts for a 440 E-body including 3/8 fuel line, etc. unfortunately no build sheet or matching engine or trans. Car was original from what I could see. Is this a possible factory screw up? 5905025-FlemingtonChallengerresize.JPG (38 downloads) 1970 Superbird 440 Six BBL, 4-Speed, Dana, FJ5 1969 Daytona Charger 440 4-Speed, Dana, EV2 1971 340 Challenger Conv. Flemington Speedway Pace Car, FC7 1970 340 Six Pack Callenger T/A 4-speed T8 Tan 1971 340 Challenger RT Formal Roof, EV2 w/ V2 Stripe & Orange Houndstooth 1969 Talladega Torino, 428CJ 1969 Gurney Special Cyclone Spoiler II, 351 Cleveland "Id rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy" Ben Franklin 1755

Re: vin # question .....warning ...may be a stupid question [Re: terzmo] #659462 04/03/10 03:07 PM 04/03/10 03:07 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 936 own private Idaho N ngpSatellite OP super stock
ngpSatellite OP super stock N Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 936 own private Idaho	Quote: Quote: Quote: I have a car with the vin tag rp23f75138* and a fender tag rp23415485217***.... fender tag matches the rad support #s and my vin matches the title..... shouldn't the vin match the fender tag?? It's a FAKE CALL THE VIN POLICE.....lol YEP...call the police..they'll impound the car and you may lose it. Great suggestion. A problem to civilians may NOT be an issue the cops want to get involved with or handle sensitivley. They get paid by the hour,like most other's, and make a judgement call on the spot on how to handle situations. Most by the book,some the way they feel it SHOULD be done. Soon as one thing is done,they can press on to whatever they do between calls. Do You really need them involved ? the car (1967 plymouth) has been registered and the title has been through a few states because I have moved a few times....... I was just curious why they didn't match....... I'ts not a big deal ... the 67s fender matches rad support and the vin (in the door jam matches the title like I said) its a 10G car not numbers matching(drivetrain wise) so I don't think somebody would have gone to the lenght of retagging or revining an orginal 318 67 satellite

Re: vin # question .....warning ...may be a stupid question [Re: RSI700VIPER] #659463 04/03/10 03:12 PM 04/03/10 03:12 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 936 own private Idaho N ngpSatellite OP super stock
ngpSatellite OP super stock N Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 936 own private Idaho	Fender tag matches the car options..... Last edited by ngpSatellite; 04/03/10 03:52 PM.

Re: vin # question .....warning ...may be a stupid question [Re: ngpSatellite] #659464 04/03/10 03:22 PM 04/03/10 03:22 PM
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1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	Quote: Quote: Not to steal this post, but a buddy of mine had a 1970 Challenger 440 car. The dash tag matched the title and door decal. Something like JS23U0B187050 (not sure of the last 4 numbers). HOWEVER, the fender tag number was JS23U0B207050 and the body numbers were 0B207050. Thats right. The first 2 digits of the sequence number were "18XXXX" on the title, dash & door tag, and "20XXXX" on the fender tag and body numbers. The last 4 digits of the sequense and all other numbers match. The body had all the right parts for a 440 E-body including 3/8 fuel line, etc. unfortunately no build sheet or matching engine or trans. Car was original from what I could see. Is this a possible factory screw up? SOUNDS JUST LIKE MINE No it doesn't.. Yours is a 67 & the numbers aren't supposed to match.. That didn't start till 69 like has been posted above.. A 70 Challenger should match the numbers not matching could raise flags but I wonder if his recollection is off a little bit because if the VIN reads JS23U0B207050 & the body stamping reads B0207050 instead of 0B207050 that is normal....

Re: vin # question .....warning ...may be a stupid question [Re: ngpSatellite] #659465 04/03/10 03:38 PM 04/03/10 03:38 PM
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NANKET master N Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,951 northwest USA	Quote: I have a car with the vin tag rp23f75138* and a fender tag rp23415485217***.... fender tag matches the rad support #s and my vin matches the title..... shouldn't the vin match the fender tag?? There is nothing wrong with the fender tag, the complete VIN is not on a 67 fender tag. If the number you posted are the real numbers, What is says is the car is an RP23 = Satellite 2 door hardtop, the engine size is 41,(don't have the book handy now), the trans is 5 = automatic, the tires are 485 = 775-14 redlines, the scheduled build date is 217 = Feb 17 1967.

Re: vin # question .....warning ...may be a stupid question [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #659466 04/03/10 05:05 PM 04/03/10 05:05 PM
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RSI700VIPER super stock R Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,149 NW New Jersey	Quote: Quote: Quote: Not to steal this post, but a buddy of mine had a 1970 Challenger 440 car. The dash tag matched the title and door decal. Something like JS23U0B187050 (not sure of the last 4 numbers). HOWEVER, the fender tag number was JS23U0B207050 and the body numbers were 0B207050. Thats right. The first 2 digits of the sequence number were "18XXXX" on the title, dash & door tag, and "20XXXX" on the fender tag and body numbers. The last 4 digits of the sequense and all other numbers match. The body had all the right parts for a 440 E-body including 3/8 fuel line, etc. unfortunately no build sheet or matching engine or trans. Car was original from what I could see. Is this a possible factory screw up? SOUNDS JUST LIKE MINE No it doesn't.. Yours is a 67 & the numbers aren't supposed to match.. That didn't start till 69 like has been posted above.. A 70 Challenger should match the numbers not matching could raise flags but I wonder if his recollection is off a little bit because if the VIN reads JS23U0B207050 & the body stamping reads B0207050 instead of 0B207050 that is normal.... Yeah, I think maybe you are right. The point is the last 6 digits. 187050 vs. 207050. Car looks all original. What are the chances of finding a 70 challenger to rebody with all the right parts and the same color, and the same last 4 vin digits? 1970 Superbird 440 Six BBL, 4-Speed, Dana, FJ5 1969 Daytona Charger 440 4-Speed, Dana, EV2 1971 340 Challenger Conv. Flemington Speedway Pace Car, FC7 1970 340 Six Pack Callenger T/A 4-speed T8 Tan 1971 340 Challenger RT Formal Roof, EV2 w/ V2 Stripe & Orange Houndstooth 1969 Talladega Torino, 428CJ 1969 Gurney Special Cyclone Spoiler II, 351 Cleveland "Id rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy" Ben Franklin 1755

Re: vin # question .....warning ...may be a stupid question [Re: ngpSatellite] #659467 04/04/10 08:55 AM 04/04/10 08:55 AM
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6PakBee I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,713 North Dakota	Quote: I have a car with the vin tag rp23f75138* and a fender tag rp23415485217***.... fender tag matches the rad support #s and my vin matches the title..... shouldn't the vin match the fender tag?? You do not have a problem. The number on the core support, fender tag, at the rear of the vehicle is the 'Service Order' number. It will not match the VIN. Normal for '68 and earlier with the later VIN sequence. "We live in a time when intelligent people are being silenced so that stupid people won't be offended".

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