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Re: Anyone ever DRAG RACED a 4-speed and 2.76 gears...??? [Re: Pale_Roader] #648523
03/23/10 10:24 AM
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It didn't hook, it just broke. The 2.76 gear just has overcome a lot of inertia from the wheels/axles/brake drums. This car just has stock shocks, and stock springs (not even superstock springs). It's not really "dialed in", it's just a bad idea to put a lot of torque, without any gear in a stick car...

It sounds like you've already made up your mind. You want the gear, and you don't care what sacrifices you need to do it.

I agree, if you're not going to launch the car, and you're never going to do a burn out in the car, and you're not going to race the car, then a 2.76 gear is fine...

But what's the point of having a BB Challenger then?

Re: Anyone ever DRAG RACED a 4-speed and 2.76 gears...??? [Re: Pale_Roader] #648524
03/23/10 12:54 PM
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FWIW GmachinedartGT has a 3500ish lb dart with a built 408 (eddie heads, IIRC small solid roller), 2.94 gears, 26" tires, and a low gear 904 with fairly high stall (3000ish) but very tight converter, and he can cruise comfortably at 75+ and also knock down mid 12's...




I forget, is that the big block lowdeck 400 Dart? or are you talking a different one with a smallblock? That stock stroke 400 Dart always impressed me.




no, it's a stroked smallblock....but it's similar displacement (contrary to popular belief, general displacement is the main determinant of torque, not stroke.)

I understand your desire, I had 3.55's and 27" tires, and anything over 55mph got very tiring due to engine revs. guess I'm used to modern cars, loping along at 2000 RPM at 70MPH.

another thought would be to use a 3.75 or 4.15" crank in your low deck to get more displacement.

more displacement with an otherwise identical induction (carb, cam, heads, compression) WILL make more torque proportional to engine displacement, and WILL make the same power, but LOWER in the RPM range.

that way you can have your performance level, but at an engine speed that would be more in line with your gearing desires.

I guess if it were me, I'd do a 451 based on a 400 (3.75" crank), eddie heads, flat tops, long rods, eddie RPM air gap, headers, and a big Tquad coupled with a lunati voodoo 60304 or comp XE275HL, and your 4 speed with either a 2.76 or 2.94.

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Re: Anyone ever DRAG RACED a 4-speed and 2.76 gears...??? [Re: patrick] #648525
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I seriously doubt that the 2:76 gear was at fault w regular street tires I'd say the 4:30's and slicks started the problem and the 2:76 finished it.

what is the ratio of the 4 speed 1st w 2:76 compared to a 727 w 3:23 1st (just a question)

I also would be interested in knowing what the green brick had in it for gearing w the 4 speed and what kind of numbers it ran.

Re: Anyone ever DRAG RACED a 4-speed and 2.76 gears...??? [Re: W7_Scamp] #648526
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The 4.30 with slicks was after the 2.76 and street tires, Hasn't broken since...

1st gear ratio of a stick w/2.76 is almost the same as 727 with 3.23 gear. The 727 will have much more torque at the tire though because of the converter. But it's obviously much nicer on parts because of the gentleness of the fluid coupling.

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