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Re: Original restorations Repo. VS original parts #644065
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I can't wait to start the 1969 T/A




Were they making them that early?

Re: Original restorations Repo. VS original parts [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #644066
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I can't wait to start the 1969 T/A




Were they making them that early?




Pontiac Firebird T/A for cry-many sakes....Pontiac T/A...

Re: Original restorations Repo. VS original parts #644067
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Speak ENGLISH! What does the code "Pontiac T/A" stand for? Were they building T/A Challengers in a secret plant in Pontiac Michigan or something?

Re: Original restorations Repo. VS original parts [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #644068
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Speak ENGLISH! What does the code "Pontiac T/A" stand for? Were they building T/A Challengers in a secret plant in Pontiac Michigan or something?




Scott, thought you knew everything. Try the secret Chrysler plant in Pontiac Illinois, where all the prototypes were built a year ahead. If you want earlier, try Area 51.

Re: Original restorations Repo. VS original parts [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #644069
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Speak ENGLISH! What does the code "Pontiac T/A" stand for? Were they building T/A Challengers in a secret plant in Pontiac Michigan or something?




That would be the ORIGINAL holder for the name T/A brother Scott! It stood for "TRANS AM". Pontiac had to pay the SCCA $5 for every "Trans Am" that was was sold to the public for using that name. (At that time, "Trans Am" was owned/trademarked by the SCCA racing series organization.) Pontiac did not think that it would cost them all that much in the overall scheme of things. Heck....they only sold 689 Hardtops and 8 Convertibles the very first year! By 1979 the amount paid from Pontiac to the SCCA organization was quite LARGE and numerous to say the least!
I thought you might want to know that little snippet of information Sir Scott!

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Ohhhhhh! THOSE Pontiacs! Now I remember, I see those out on the Indian reservation all the time, most don't run

Re: Original restorations Repo. VS original parts [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #644071
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Trust me Scott.....a Ram Air IV will run with anything of it's time. Guaranteed!!!!!!

Re: Original restorations Repo. VS original parts #644072
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Speak ENGLISH! What does the code "Pontiac T/A" stand for? Were they building T/A Challengers in a secret plant in Pontiac Michigan or something?




That would be the ORIGINAL holder for the name T/A brother Scott! It stood for "TRANS AM". Pontiac had to pay the SCCA $5 for every "Trans Am" that was was sold to the public for using that name. (At that time, "Trans Am" was owned/trademarked by the SCCA racing series organization.) Pontiac did not think that it would amount to being a very big deal. Heck....they only sold 689 Hardtops and 8 Convertibles the very first year! By 1979 the amount paid from Pontiac to the SCCA organization was quite LARGE and numerous to say the least!
I thought you might want to know that little snippet of information Sir Scott!




Great info That means that the 3 diamonds in the rough that I have are worth at least $15! Counting the 69 Trans Am I had as a kid....Pontiac spent $20 on me over the years. I traded my 69 away when I was 19 years old. That thing ran like a gut shot cat! I was dating a girl that had horses and did the barrel racing thing.....and I just HAD to have a pickup to pull a horse trailer Some things ya just gotta learn the hard way! Good luck and have fun with it.

Re: Original restorations Repo. VS original parts [Re: JDMopar] #644073
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I traded my 69 away when I was 19 years old.




ARE YOU SERIOUS? Did you really have one of these when you were 19? You are the second person I have heard that owned one when they were a teen. That is just awesome! They are one of the most up and coming valuable collector cars on the market. While everything else has been declining, they have continued to rise in value. How did you like it? What power train set up did you have? Thanks for sharing that info.

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The one I had was a 400 Ram Air III with a 4 spd. Sometime in 1976, I traded a 70 Duster 340 4 spd in on it. Traded dead even. At some point in time before I got it, it had been in a fender bender, or someone just swapped hoods. It had the spoiler,fender scoops and you could see the stripes on the top and decklid under the repaint. It was a nice car for a kid bagging groceries, and I didn't even know it was a T/A. I just thought it was a Firebird. After I traded it in on the truck, some dude called me to ask me about it because he was going to buy it off the car lot I traded it in to. He's the one that told me it was a T/A with the wrong hood on it. Of all the cars I've owned over the years, that one haunts me the most. The horse girl was some good stuff.....but I have better memories of the T/A that got away!

Re: Original restorations Repo. VS original parts [Re: JDMopar] #644075
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WOW! Not to make the memory any worse, that car the way you described it would still bring between $50K to $60K in today's market. At least you owned one to tell about! Thank you very much for sharing the story.

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Buddy of mine owned one back in the late 80's, nice original paint RA-IV.. He stripped all the T/A parts off & bolted them to a 69 Firebird convertible.. I thought it was a shame but at the time figured as long as he hangs onto the real T/A whats it hurt... Then he scrapped the real T/A... Whatta Moron... Then again most Morons are smarter than that...

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You're welcome Dave. I just chalk that one up to a lesson learned the hard way. The aftermath of that deal was when I learned to think with the big brain rather than the little one! On another note....thanks for all your efforts to better our hobby. I'm more or less a lurker in these OE resto type of threads, and learn a lot by reading the thoughts and ideas of people like you,Paul Jacobs,and many others. I've done several cars over the years,and won a lot of trophies,but have never done the type of REAL restoration that I plan on doing to my 70 A66 Challenger. Things I have learned here from folks like yourself will aid me greatly.

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Buddy of mine owned one back in the late 80's, nice original paint RA-IV.. He stripped all the T/A parts off & bolted them to a 69 Firebird convertible.. I thought it was a shame but at the time figured as long as he hangs onto the real T/A whats it hurt... Then he scrapped the real T/A... Whatta Moron... Then again most Morons are smarter than that...




You are killing me Randy! After reading your story all I can do is wonder why someone would do that to an original T/A!? Unreal!!

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You are killing me Randy! After reading your story all I can do is wonder why someone would do that to an original T/A!? Unreal!!




I never said there was any reason you or I would understand.. He still owns the vert.. It now has a blown small block chevy in it..

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.....learn a lot by reading the thoughts and ideas of people like you,Paul Jacobs,and many others.




With honest and humble sincerity, if our efforts inspire or help ANYONE, then all of the work is certainly worth it. The good Lord put us here for a short time and what we contribute and give to others is what defines our character. I have fun ribbing and bickering back and forth here with a few who want to argue and but I would give the shirt off my back to help anyone that I could. Your kind sentiment has made my week! I cannot thank you enough for your post!

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Maybe it's just 'cause I'm a little slow on a Monday morning, but why is this dead thread coming up at the top...it's not stickied?

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