Re: New Edelbrock Carb Issues.
[Re: SomeCarGuy]
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03/20/10 06:31 AM
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Not sure. I'll check on that compensator.
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Re: New Edelbrock Carb Issues.
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03/21/10 06:13 AM
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Found some things out yesterday with my hard start when my 69 Super Bee 383 has sat for 15-20 minutes after running for awhile. With the Edelbrock (Brand new out of the box) I have to put the pedal to the floor and grind to get it the car to start. I rechecked the fuel pressure and saw 6psi. I hooked up a regulator and adjusted to 4.5 psi. Same result. No start Hot. I went ahead and checked the motor compression, just because I hadn't in a long time, and that was good in all cylinders. At that point I cried UNCLE and put my Holley back on paying close attention to starting hot and it does crank over a few times but starts without planting your foot and grinding away. This brings me to My next theory, Heat riser valve stuck partially shut. The Eddy bowls are hung on the side of the carb, the Holley front to back more away from the crossover of the intake. My heatriser valve assy appears to be gone except were the flapper arm rod would be sticking out of the exhaust manifold , thats still in place and stuck, can't move it. Sounds like it could be time to pull that loose and make sure. The exhaust has no crossover as well so I may be able just to check the amount of exhaust I get but the valve may well not be shut all the way cause when hot I don't notice any issues with how the car runs once it gets going.
1968 Barracuda Fastback 318-2BBL 904 2.76 Frost Blue Survivor 1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic 1971 Cuda 340-4 BBL 4spd 3.91 SG Curious Yellow 1972 Barracuda 318-2 BBL 904 AT 3.23 1 Legger Tor Red/White Vinyl Top 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi AT Patriot Blue 2011 Dodge Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi 6spd 392 SG Triple Black 2014 Dodge Charger RT Max AWD 5.7 Hemi AT 305 Billet Silver
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Re: New Edelbrock Carb Issues.
[Re: JohnRR]
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03/21/10 10:18 AM
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Actually I have a 600 Eddy now. I took that 750 back to O Reillys but I'm getting the same thing with this 600.Two new carbs with same issue sounds unlikely and the heat riser flapper not being open all the way could explain why the Holley works and the Eddy's don't. If that's open, I'm taking the 600 back for either a refund or a new Holley. Or just rebuild my old Holley and move on.
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Re: New Edelbrock Carb Issues.
[Re: Junky]
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03/21/10 04:52 PM
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Yep. I replaced some leaky gaskets on my Holley and am now off and running. Heat rizer valve open so that is that. My 600 Eddy is in the box to go back. It's only 2 weeks old.Allot of headaches trying to put a new one on. The first 750 Eddy I had about a month ago Idled like crap and had the hot start issue. This 600 just has the hard start. Took my new age Carter AFB off my 68 bee and ran it on the 69 also. Redid the Holley I had on it to start with and am now back and running with no hot start issues. That'll be my last attempt at messing with an Eddy. I just hope after the 2nd try they'll either give me my money back or a new Holley. This Eddy is a boat anchor.
1968 Barracuda Fastback 318-2BBL 904 2.76 Frost Blue Survivor 1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic 1971 Cuda 340-4 BBL 4spd 3.91 SG Curious Yellow 1972 Barracuda 318-2 BBL 904 AT 3.23 1 Legger Tor Red/White Vinyl Top 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi AT Patriot Blue 2011 Dodge Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi 6spd 392 SG Triple Black 2014 Dodge Charger RT Max AWD 5.7 Hemi AT 305 Billet Silver
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Re: New Edelbrock Carb Issues.
[Re: TimS]
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03/22/10 07:01 PM
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Thanks for all the input.After putting my old Holley back on I took that Edelbrock 1406 back today and got my money back. No more of those for me. Since there are no more Carters available I guess, Holley here I come, in the future.
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Re: New Edelbrock Carb Issues.
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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03/22/10 08:09 PM
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Holley runs great. No problems.
List # is 4749-3. What CFM is that? I looked it up in my Holley carb book but it didn't list that model. Thanks.
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Re: New Edelbrock Carb Issues.
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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03/22/10 10:04 PM
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List 4749 is on the air horn. I do know it's a fairly old carb.
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Re: New Edelbrock Carb Issues.
[Re: TimS]
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03/23/10 08:12 AM
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I needs to gets me one of them holley gas holes fer my 440 I just got my first one its a spredbore 650 manual 2ndarys double pumper is the 3310 the one with the duel feed line?? so that carb is a replacement for a mopar or would it have come on a mopar stock I guess I gots lot to lean on these gas holes
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Re: New Edelbrock Carb Issues.
[Re: scratchnfotraction]
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03/24/10 06:29 AM
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Some of the 70's had a stock 4BBL but most were Carter AVS,Thermoquads or AFB's. I used to have a 70 Roadrunner that had a stock Holley on it. This 69 Super Bee a Carter AVS.
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Re: New Edelbrock Carb Issues.
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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03/24/10 08:36 PM
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I'm thinking of getting a new Holley now after all the issues with the Edelbrock. I've taken that back to the parts store. Whats the best all round Holley carb out there for a stock 383 HP car? I'm thinking Double pumper. I've had good luck with those in the past.
1968 Barracuda Fastback 318-2BBL 904 2.76 Frost Blue Survivor 1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic 1971 Cuda 340-4 BBL 4spd 3.91 SG Curious Yellow 1972 Barracuda 318-2 BBL 904 AT 3.23 1 Legger Tor Red/White Vinyl Top 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi AT Patriot Blue 2011 Dodge Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi 6spd 392 SG Triple Black 2014 Dodge Charger RT Max AWD 5.7 Hemi AT 305 Billet Silver
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