For all of you that think slapper bars dont work ...
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02/27/10 09:59 PM
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This is for all of those that dont think slapper bars work on Mopars.I ran the Dart today and had my best 60' of 1.60 flat with the slapper bars i got off craiglist for $30.00.Notice in the second vid how the whole car lifts front and back ,and the rearend slams down hard.The track sucked for traction IMO,but i still was yanking both front wheels about 3 inches in the air all day long (first time to get the wheels up on it ever).Not bad for 4.10 gears and a high first geared Powerglide ,behind a 10 to 1 smallblock. .Time for sum more motor and gears. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWfN9ajAHm8http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3qtHxyYv-g
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Re: For all of you that think slapper bars dont work ...
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02/28/10 12:43 AM
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Re: For all of you that think slapper bars dont work ...
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02/28/10 12:55 AM
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Slapper bars, will work fine until your torque output combined with final gear multiplication overpowers the short front MP spring segments leverage ability vs the cars transfer weight on said axel. The result when that happens, is extreme rear body lift bouncing off its axel arc limits thereby creating a porpoising effect. Your car with the powerglide vs it weight will be more forgiving with slapper bars vs a 727. Your cars running great, but if you get much faster with more power/torque. You will see first hand the limits of the slapper bars on the short front spring segment Mopars. So far youve done great IMO With some good adjustable rear shocks you may be able to take those slapper bars to even faster ETS. mike
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Re: For all of you that think slapper bars dont work ...
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02/28/10 03:01 AM
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my slapper bars work and I have SS spring's, I wonder if their too soft
With SS springs you dont want or need slapper bars. The design concept of the SS springs is to make them extra stiff enough in the first place. With even more biased design stiffness on the passenger side, where its needed to prevent unwanted axel rotation.
If your hanging slapper bars on SS springs all your doing is adding extra ballast weight.IMO mike
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Re: For all of you that think slapper bars dont work ...
[Re: sam64]
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02/28/10 09:49 AM
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Its odd Sam .My 60's went down about .004,but my ET was about the same as it was before.My previous best was a 7.27 in the 1/8 before with a 1.63 60 ,but i could only muster a 7.29 with a 1.60 60 .I was having sum problems with the car wandering on the big end in both lanes all ten passes.They ground the track recently and theres not much traction on the big end .The car is also about 60 lbs heavier than the last time i ran it.I got sum of it back gutting it more,but between the rollbars ,rear fire wall ,and the heavy slapper bars its heavier .The car is deadly consistant though in the 60' .I was getting either a 1.61 or a 1.60 60 foot every pass all ten passes .Now i just need to motor her up with more cam and stiffer valve springs .Only problem i had was the tach quit working on the first pass.I kept trying to fix a wiring problem between rounds ,but it was the tach.I ended up buying one at the track from a vendor (and got raped) ,but i had to have it.It sucks not knowing what rpm your doing a burnout at ,launching at ,or trying to shift at .Car ran good though ...
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Re: For all of you that think slapper bars dont work ...
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02/28/10 10:10 AM
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Proly had a 3 spd trans behind the 340 with lower gears as well .I proved that slapper bars can stop spring wrap ,and control wheel hop ,create lift (hence the wheelies all day),and lower your 60 foot ,plus make your car more consistant on a Mopar for $30.00(i'd have to say that either a 1.60 or a 1.61 on ten passes in a row is fairly consistant).What more is there to prove ???
anything that stops worn out springs from wrapping may help. but the true test would be doing like I said. try them with and then with out back to back.
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Re: For all of you that think slapper bars dont work ...
[Re: The Shocker]
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02/28/10 10:23 AM
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Slapper bars are a cure (stiffens the front half of the leaf springs) for a problem (weak front spring halfs winding up), just like pinion snubbers BTW, is your car hesitating at all on the initial hit? If so fix that and see how much your sixty ft. times increase9lower)
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Re: For all of you that think slapper bars dont work ...
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02/28/10 10:50 AM
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Such negativity. The OP spend $30 which led to a huge improvement to his car. He can now move forward from this point ( with all the great info found here on Moparts) to replace springs and/or shocks as he deems necessary.
how do you know there was a huge improvement? I think they could help him at his level but he didn't give us before and after numbers? no negativity I amm all for it if it helped him no matter if it wouldn't work for everybody
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