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Factory Kickdown Linkage and Performer RPM #624628
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Will factory kickdown linkage work with a Performer RPM intake? The car is a '67 Satellite 440/727. I don't have the stock kickdown linkage around to try so that's why I ask so I know if I will have to order some kind of cable kickdown setup. Thanks!

Re: Factory Kickdown Linkage and Performer RPM [Re: 67Satty] #624629
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With a little fab-work, you can make it happen. Here's mine on a low-deck. I wanted a stock look (and I'm sorta cheap, so I tend to work with what I've got). This started as a stock 2-bbl setup. I extended the height of the stock throttle cable bracket, and bent the top kick-down rod to fit the extra ht. Then had to add threaded rod onto the end of the original rod to make it reach. Seems to work perfectly.

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Re: Factory Kickdown Linkage and Performer RPM [Re: 67Satty] #624630
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Will factory kickdown linkage work with a Performer RPM intake? The car is a '67 Satellite 440/727. I don't have the stock kickdown linkage around to try so that's why I ask so I know if I will have to order some kind of cable kickdown setup. Thanks!




There is no such animal as kick down linkage.Throttle press linkage yes,kick down linkage,no.

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Will factory kickdown linkage work with a Performer RPM intake? The car is a '67 Satellite 440/727. I don't have the stock kickdown linkage around to try so that's why I ask so I know if I will have to order some kind of cable kickdown setup. Thanks!




There is no such animal as kick down linkage.Throttle press linkage yes,kick down linkage,no.




Of course, if you disconnect the throttle pressure linkage, the transmission will no longer "kick down."

Gensrud's solution is the same one I've done several times. Modify the stock pieces to get the lengths and angles right; helps if you have a welder.

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Re: Factory Kickdown Linkage and Performer RPM [Re: ZIPPY] #624633
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"Of course, if you disconnect the throttle pressure linkage, the transmission will no longer "kick down."

Right, but it will fry becasuse of low pressure.

Re: Factory Kickdown Linkage and Performer RPM [Re: stumpy] #624634
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"Of course, if you disconnect the throttle pressure linkage, the transmission will no longer "kick down."

Right, but it will fry becasuse of low pressure.




And it won't down shift either!

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Let's play nice children. The stock linkage will work. You need the 3 peice linkage. It won't work with the single rod version. I have it on mine and it works perfect and looks stock.

Re: Factory Kickdown Linkage and Performer RPM [Re: Dougsmopars] #624636
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The one piece rod will work with most anything if you lengthen it and use the correct throttle pressure lever.

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Re: Factory Kickdown Linkage and Performer RPM [Re: 62maxwgn] #624637
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Firewall clearance dictates whether or not the one-piece rod will work.


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Re: Factory Kickdown Linkage and Performer RPM [Re: John_Kunkel] #624638
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I run a 3 piece with my performer RPM. All I did was bend the rod attached to the carb and twist the adjustment nearly all the way out. I maybe have 3 threads left go but I get the right clearance/adjustment.

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"Of course, if you disconnect the throttle pressure linkage, the transmission will no longer "kick down."

Right, but it will fry becasuse of low pressure.




And it won't down shift either!




If you come to a stop it will . . . .

Re: Factory Kickdown Linkage and Performer RPM [Re: ZIPPY] #624640
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http://arengineering.com/throttlebracket/Tbracket/tbracketframe.html




This looks like a winner. And they call it kickdown linkage too.

Re: Factory Kickdown Linkage and Performer RPM [Re: 67Satty] #624641
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Ever see the term "kickdown linkage" in a FSM?


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Re: Factory Kickdown Linkage and Performer RPM [Re: John_Kunkel] #624642
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Not Mopar FSM.

It's to late and there are to many to retrain.

Re: Factory Kickdown Linkage and Performer RPM [Re: demonH1B] #624643
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Who cares what you want to call it? We all know what he means and wasting time with grammer doesn't answer his question.

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Because it has a correct name and it should be used. You don't call an airplane an engine powered bird.

Re: Factory Kickdown Linkage and Performer RPM [Re: Dougsmopars] #624645
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Because we still have people that think the "linkage" isn't
necessary if you manually downshift (kickdown).
There were transmissions built with "kickdown
linkage" and other shifts were controlled by a vacuum modulator, but not by Chrysler.

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Better call Herb's and let them know all there linkage listings are incorrect. 440 4 BBL 3 PC KICKDOWN LINKAGE EARLY STYLE Details


440 4 BBL 3 PIECE KICKDOWN LINKAGE EARLY STYLE. FITS 66-68 "B" BODY W/ORIGINAL 3 PIECE STYLE KICKDOWN LINKAGE. KIT INCLUDES LINKAGE W/UPPER & LOWER BELLCRANKS, TRANSMISSION THROTTLE LEVER, THROTTLE CABLE MOUNTING BRACKET, RETURN SPRING & HARDWARE.
Price: $350.00

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Does the throttle pressure linkage also operate the kickdown function? Are there kickdown valves, kickdown servos, and is the front band also called the kickdown band in the FSM?

The answer to these questions is Yes. If the throttle pressure rod did not have anything to do with the kickdown function then maybe then it would be a misnomer.

In short, this is nothing more than formal semantics. There is nothing lexically or conceptually wrong with calling the throttle pressure linkage/rod the kickdown rod. The important thing is that we all know what you mean.

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