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Hooker Header Clearance problem on B-Body anyone else #620672
02/22/10 06:13 AM
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We installed a set of hooker competition headers on 68 Coronet R/T with a 383 engine the problem is that the header on the driver the side is hitting the tie rod and pitman arm. On the old headers the second tube has a hump to allow clearance but the hookers just come down and turn back. We was wondering who else might have had the same problem and what they did to correct it. These are the ceramic cited Hookers part# 5903-1HKR

Re: Hooker Header Clearance problem on B-Body anyone else [Re: KY Charger] #620673
02/22/10 10:05 AM
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I had the same problem years ago with my 383-powered '68. I fixed it with a hammer.


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Re: Hooker Header Clearance problem on B-Body anyone else [Re: 1968RR] #620674
02/22/10 11:41 AM
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Same problem here on the gtx. Heat it and tap it lightly.


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Re: Hooker Header Clearance problem on B-Body anyone else [Re: KY Charger] #620675
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My only issue with my 5903's on the 70-440 car was the collector flange rattled against the driver side torsion bar. Just sucked it over with a steel rod with a couple washers welded on each end. Once it went through about a dozen heat cycles, it stayed there on its own. Nothing else hits but maybe it's because it sits slightly up/out on the RB.

Re: Hooker Header Clearance problem on B-Body anyone else [Re: b54406barrel] #620676
02/23/10 09:29 AM
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my hookers exited directly at the cross member for the t bars on the drivers side, no way to hook up the exh pipes. returned them, after much fighting with hooker. the next set the pass side collector exited directly at the cross member for the t bars, no way to hook up exh pipes. after much fighting with hooker returned them and went with tti

Re: Hooker Header Clearance problem on B-Body anyone else [Re: KY Charger] #620677
02/24/10 03:40 AM
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Isn't it a sad thing that with all the years that these cars have been around that the only manufacturer with any consideration is TTI? They make an excellent product, without exception. I've used their 2" Big block headers and the "Step" headers for small blocks. Both are great. The Hooker 5209 and 5903 are cheaper. I tried them both and was pissed with poor fitment. Why should the enthusiast have to crush a pipe to clear the brake combo valve or the pitman? It's pathetic. TTI did their homework, but we pay their tuition! I have always tried to get by with a good deal, but in this case, it really does pay to buy the best.

Re: Hooker Header Clearance problem on B-Body anyone else [Re: Kern Dog] #620678
02/24/10 02:12 PM
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My Hooker headers fit fine on my A-body 70 Duster 360 with no clearance problems. Raise the torsion bars alittle and welded a skid plate for insurance on the driver side tubes.

For like $169 they seem to be still a good product for the money.

Ask the 4spd guys about their fitment issues with TTI's.


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Re: Hooker Header Clearance problem on B-Body anyone else [Re: MY340] #620679
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I got a buddy who bought those headers for his 69' Charger RT/SE and had a helluva time getting the fitment right. Little heat and tap it with a hammer is how he fixed it.


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Re: Hooker Header Clearance problem on B-Body anyone else [Re: CurYellowBird] #620680
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I think I paid about $300 w/shipping for my coated hookers so I didn't feel too bad when I had to tweak a little. Heck, I've been doing that to everything on cars for 45 years! That's the fun part. Sometimes.
According to tti, their headers wouldn't work on my 6bbl car anyway because it's a column shift auto. No problem with the hookers.

Re: Hooker Header Clearance problem on B-Body anyone else [Re: KY Charger] #620681
02/24/10 03:02 PM
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My 5903 headers fit both the 440(stock heads) and the
400 block(e heads) in my manual steering B body very well. The only issue I ran into was with the angled plugs on the e heads on two cylinders, couldn't quite get a socket on the plugs without two tiny dings maybe 3/8 x 3/8 for socket clearance.

With the 400 block I later switched to Hooker 5209 which is larger primary/secondary, but was even easier to install and also fit and worked great.

Some guys have all the luck, right?

later, I decided my motor mounts were getting old, and replaced both sides with NOS TRW, made in USA insulators. Doing that created a slight torsion bar interferance problem on one side (I forget which side, but I think it was the left side). There went the luck....

Being that the old motor mounts were a perfect fit + the new mounts caused a slight issue, what I think I'll do now is take some moroso solid mounts and modify them to be the same dimensions as the squashed old mounts.


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Re: Hooker Header Clearance problem on B-Body anyone else [Re: KY Charger] #620682
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I've got hooker ceramic comps on my 67 coronet. They fit like crap. I had to dimple both sides in a few spots. Especially tight on the drivers side at the collector / torsion bar. Would not buy them again. How can they make these things for 40 freekin years and not have them fit????

Re: Hooker Header Clearance problem on B-Body anyone else [Re: KY Charger] #620683
02/25/10 10:13 AM
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I have a new set of Hooker 1 7/8 Ceramic coated headers on my 70 Charger RT 440 and they fit perfect! Didnt have to alter them at all.

My engine has Source heads,powersteering with a mini starter.

Re: Hooker Header Clearance problem on B-Body anyone else [Re: Blakcharger440] #620684
02/26/10 11:56 AM
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Do these headers work with power steering and column shift?

Re: Hooker Header Clearance problem on B-Body anyone else [Re: rapom] #620685
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Quote:

Do these headers work with power steering and column shift?




Yep. I converted my rr to power steering same time I put the hooker's on. It's very close to the ps box but doesn't hit. I put a little dimple in just to make sure but after it was all together, I didn't really need it. Didn't do anything to the column shift linkage, no issue. Only issue I did have was the driver side collector flange rattling against the torsion bar occasionally so I tweaked it towards center.

Re: Hooker Header Clearance problem on B-Body anyone else [Re: lokalik] #620686
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, after much fighting with hooker...... . after much fighting with hooker


Sorry, but sounds like part of a good drinking story.

As far as topic, the problem I found to be worst was when I put new LCA bushings in, they moved the T-bars in and created interferance. Wasn't a problem with the worn out ones!

Re: Hooker Header Clearance problem on B-Body anyone else [Re: RemCharger] #620687
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Quote:



As far as topic, the problem I found to be worst was when I put new LCA bushings in, they moved the T-bars in and created interferance. Wasn't a problem with the worn out ones!




Between that and the motor mount issue I ran across, is there a pattern developing here. Maybe they developed those headers using a car with 100,000 miles on it or something

Re: Hooker Header Clearance problem on B-Body anyone else [Re: ZIPPY] #620688
02/26/10 10:16 PM
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My phone conversations with a Hooker technician went something like this.

Call 1
Me: A '68 pick up has an extra cross member in it. Do you know that?
Tech: If we say they fit then we've test fitted them on a vehicle and they work.
Me: Okay, I'll order them

Call 2
Me: These don't fit. They hit the extra cross member.
Tech: It is because you have an RB block instead of a B block. We never said they'd fit with a RB. It is a couple inches bigger.
Me: You clearly don't understand how they don't fit. We're not talking about an inch or two. We're talking about a mount that goes right through the middle of where you've got the collector.
Tech: Well, they fit.

I'll never use that company again in my life. And I don't use "never" very often.

Look up the price on a set of 5810 Hookers to maybe better understand my anger with them.

Re: Hooker Header Clearance problem on B-Body anyone else [Re: rapom] #620689
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Do these headers work with power steering and column shift?




My 70 Charger RT is a 4speed with powersteering. They fit like they were grown there!!!

Re: Hooker Header Clearance problem on B-Body anyone else [Re: Blakcharger440] #620690
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Do hooker 5903 headers work ok with edelbrock heads. Any real world experiences.







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