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Re: TA/AAR Two-Nipple Crankcase Breather
[Re: floyd]
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02/18/10 07:25 PM
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Here's the pic from the survivor purple T/A
Wow,...just a hose dumping out to nowhere?,....looks like a potential fire hazard by dumping gas right on the exhaust manifold should the needle seat stick on the center carb,....Chrysler wasn't concerned about this application? 
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Re: TA/AAR Two-Nipple Crankcase Breather
[Re: Steve340]
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02/18/10 09:32 PM
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Would having gas run into the crankcase be a better situation? KABOOM! The low mile T/A has a single nipple breather AND it was pushed into the valve cover while the engine paint was still wet, note the orange engine paint stuck to the underside. 
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Re: TA/AAR Two-Nipple Crankcase Breather
[Re: fastmark]
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02/18/10 10:33 PM
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As Barry said, there were no two nipple breathers.
The Chrysler name for the part is Crankcase Vent Inlet Air Cleaner and Oil Filter, although the service manuals referred to it variously as a breather cap, or a crankcase air cleaner.
Attached is the page from a 1970 parts book. This is a May 1970 revision, which includes AAR and T/A.
Only 3 breathers were made. One for all cars without the 1970 emission control system (ECS) - one nipple, one for V8's w/ECS - 3 nipples, and one for slant sixes w/ECS.
The purple T/A has the wrong breather.
Bob
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Re: TA/AAR Two-Nipple Crankcase Breather
[Re: floyd]
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02/18/10 10:48 PM
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The purple survivor T/A that was at the Nats two years ago looks like it had a section of rubber hose coming off the carb bowl vent that wasn't connected to anything. It had the single nipple breather.
From his post earlier, the hose just ends, does not go to a nipple.
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Re: TA/AAR Two-Nipple Crankcase Breather
[Re: Alaskan_TA]
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02/19/10 12:12 AM
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The purple survivor T/A that was at the Nats two years ago looks like it had a section of rubber hose coming off the carb bowl vent that wasn't connected to anything. It had the single nipple breather.
From his post earlier, the hose just ends, does not go to a nipple.
Oh, you're right. My brain saw the hose attached to the breather, but it now looks like an open hose end.
Bob
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Re: TA/AAR Two-Nipple Crankcase Breather
[Re: rftroy]
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03/03/10 12:04 PM
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This pic is from the mag Super Stock July 1970. It shows a vent hose to the breather and there is no pipe comming up for N95 on the fender well so it's a 2 nipple breather. I have the mag if anyone wants to see the whole artical. Download the pic and enlarge it.
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Re: TA/AAR Two-Nipple Crankcase Breather
[Re: RareTA]
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03/03/10 12:18 PM
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This mag is High Performance Cars Aug 1970. It's pretty clear this engine only has 2 nipples in the breather. As before I have this mag also if anyone needs more proof.
'09 Challenger R/T
'70 Challenger T/A 340 6Pak and Auto
I was born with nothing and I still have most of it left!
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Re: TA/AAR Two-Nipple Crankcase Breather
[Re: RareTA]
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03/03/10 12:27 PM
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For those who don't believe the magazines don't exist.
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Re: TA/AAR Two-Nipple Crankcase Breather
[Re: RareTA]
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03/03/10 12:27 PM
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All my T/As, and I've owned 5 of them since 1978, have had the single large nipple breather as Barry said.
1970 Dodge Challenger T/A
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Re: TA/AAR Two-Nipple Crankcase Breather
[Re: jeff968]
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03/03/10 12:37 PM
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I don't know for sure...all I'm offering is proof from the 70's that they did exist. I very well dought the people shooting these pictures in the 70's added the hose and different breather. Why would they care which one the car had? May be it was a hit or miss rather they used 1 or 2 nipple breather on the line. Who was standing there and can say for sure.
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'70 Challenger T/A 340 6Pak and Auto
I was born with nothing and I still have most of it left!
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Re: TA/AAR Two-Nipple Crankcase Breather
[Re: RareTA]
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03/03/10 01:22 PM
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This mag is High Performance Cars Aug 1970. It's pretty clear this engine only has 2 nipples in the breather. As before I have this mag also if anyone needs more proof.
Looks like three nipples to me. The small one is just disconnected. It's pointed toward the camera and just to the right of the heater hoses. In that picture, the one going to the air cleaner is at the 2 o'clock position, and the one going to the carb is at the 11 o'clock position.  Please correct me if I'm seeing this wrong.
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Re: TA/AAR Two-Nipple Crankcase Breather
[Re: autoxcuda]
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03/03/10 02:48 PM
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This is that cap at 3000 PPI's. I only see 2 nipples on it. The thing at 6 O'Clock that may look like the third is the bend on the heater hose holder. That's what I see.
Last edited by RareTA; 03/03/10 02:50 PM.
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'70 Challenger T/A 340 6Pak and Auto
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Re: TA/AAR Two-Nipple Crankcase Breather
[Re: RareTA]
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03/03/10 04:43 PM
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The third nipple is in that photo, but it is in the shadowed area. It has come up before. If you take a 3-nipple breather & hold it at the same angle / orientation you can spot it, try it.
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Re: TA/AAR Two-Nipple Crankcase Breather
[Re: RareTA]
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03/03/10 07:12 PM
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Bought my AAR in July 73 and it has a single nibble breather.. It was originally sold in the Atlanta area.
Tony
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Re: TA/AAR Two-Nipple Crankcase Breather
[Re: RareTA]
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03/03/10 07:46 PM
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I just had another thought. (WOW that's scary) Why would they vent the carb to the breather on an N95 car and just let it go and vent to the air on a regular T/A? As I understand the N95 was to recirculate the gas tank vapor so it didn't go in the air. Why not just vent it up to the breather and leave it at that? I guess my other question is why the double standard?
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'70 Challenger T/A 340 6Pak and Auto
I was born with nothing and I still have most of it left!
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