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LM-2 wideband #612153 02/13/10 01:51 AM 02/13/10 01:51 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,521 PA moparacer OP master
moparacer OP master Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,521 PA	I am close to pulling the trigger on a Innovate LM-2 wideband at Jegs for my N/A BB Dart. Anyone here using one? Like it? Any problems? Tips on setting it up and using it? What about leaded race fuels and sensor damage? I like the fact that you can store runs on a SD card and load them on a laptop later on to analyze. 67 Barracuda street/bracket car 11.27-119 68 Dart 502 BB 8.70s-152 414 cid SB Dragster 7.65-174

Re: LM-2 wideband [Re: moparacer] #612154 02/13/10 08:54 AM 02/13/10 08:54 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,503 Illinois CRE2004 super gas
CRE2004 super gas Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,503 Illinois	I'm still using the LM-1 but it's been a very effective tuning tool. I replace the O2 sensor every year just as preventative maintenace because of all the leaded race gas that goes through it. I could also probably save you a nickel or two over Jegs...

Re: LM-2 wideband [Re: CRE2004] #612155 02/13/10 11:34 AM 02/13/10 11:34 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,379 Houston,Tx. L Lee446 pro stock
Lee446 pro stock L Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,379 Houston,Tx.	I just purchased the F.A.S.T wideband w/rpm module from Rich @ www.fastmanefi.com . He gave me a good price! You might want to call him and see what he says. Lee.

Re: LM-2 wideband [Re: Lee446] #612156 02/13/10 11:46 AM 02/13/10 11:46 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 153 Wpg, Mb, Canada S six-barrel member
six-barrel member S Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 153 Wpg, Mb, Canada	I use the FJO system. http://fjoracing.com/products/WBAFR/

Re: LM-2 wideband [Re: six-barrel] #612157 02/15/10 01:10 PM 02/15/10 01:10 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,521 PA moparacer OP master
moparacer OP master Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,521 PA	Thanks for the replies fellas. Lee, have you had a chance to use your Fast setup yet? If so how does it work and how do you like it? The RPM issue with the LM2 is whats really scaring me away from it. Some peoples work fine, and some cant get it to work. 67 Barracuda street/bracket car 11.27-119 68 Dart 502 BB 8.70s-152 414 cid SB Dragster 7.65-174

Re: LM-2 wideband [Re: moparacer] #612158 02/15/10 01:24 PM 02/15/10 01:24 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 4,953 Houston, Texas TheOtherDodge master
TheOtherDodge master Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 4,953 Houston, Texas	I use the WB-2 that has a led display and logging feature.

Re: LM-2 wideband [Re: moparacer] #612159 02/15/10 03:01 PM 02/15/10 03:01 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 6,568 Downtown Roebuck Ont Twostick Still wishing...
Twostick Still wishing... Joined: May 2003 Posts: 6,568 Downtown Roebuck Ont	I run the LC1 from Innovate. No problems. Any problems I have read about on their forums 90% of the time seem to be caused by people that can't follow installation instructions. Most problems with Innovate are ground related and if you don't wire it EXACTLY as instructed it will give no end of grief. Kevin

Re: LM-2 wideband [Re: moparacer] #612160 02/15/10 03:15 PM 02/15/10 03:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,982 Ansonia, CT C CJK440 master
CJK440 master C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,982 Ansonia, CT	Quote: Thanks for the replies fellas. Lee, have you had a chance to use your Fast setup yet? If so how does it work and how do you like it? The RPM issue with the LM2 is whats really scaring me away from it. Some peoples work fine, and some cant get it to work. I had an RPM logging issue with an LM-1. I had to install a potentiometer in the tach signal wire to dial in a certain amount of resistance. Some people actually install a resistor. Once installed it worked great. 2017 Contusion Blue Challenger T/A 392 M6 "BLKNBLU"

Re: LM-2 wideband [Re: CJK440] #612161 02/15/10 03:50 PM 02/15/10 03:50 PM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,968 North Riverside IL & Lowell IN GTXKen super gas
GTXKen super gas Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,968 North Riverside IL & Lowell IN	Still a rookie but I bought an LM-2 last summer. The support I got on the phone was great. No problems and its doubled as an OBD2 code reader as well, maybe they all do that I don't know.

Re: LM-2 wideband [Re: moparacer] #612162 02/15/10 04:08 PM 02/15/10 04:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually B BradH Taking time off to work on my car
BradH Taking time off to work on my car B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually	My LM-2 is still sitting in the box, just like when I bought it last year. I'm really hoping I don't encounter the problems that people on the Innovate forums posted about... rather frequently. Getting it installed and operational is on my "Spring 2010 To-Do List".

Re: LM-2 wideband [Re: BradH] #612163 02/15/10 04:29 PM 02/15/10 04:29 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 6,568 Downtown Roebuck Ont Twostick Still wishing...
Twostick Still wishing... Joined: May 2003 Posts: 6,568 Downtown Roebuck Ont	Just follow the instructions TO THE LETTER and you will likely be fine. If they tell you to ground something to the battery don't ground it to the dash. All grounds are not created equal. Kevin

Re: LM-2 wideband [Re: Twostick] #612164 02/15/10 05:46 PM 02/15/10 05:46 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 292 NY challenger451ci enthusiast
challenger451ci enthusiast Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 292 NY	Quote: Just follow the instructions TO THE LETTER and you will likely be fine. If they tell you to ground something to the battery don't ground it to the dash. All grounds are not created equal. Kevin I agree 100%. I use electrical panel ground bars to land all my critcal stuff, then run a heavy (12ga.-10ga.) gauge to a good ground(battery, frame etc..) The biggest enemy with data loggers is noise IMO. Try to isolate the sensor cable(s) and power from all other wiring, especially the ignition! If you have to cross paths, do it at 90deg to prevent picking up noise. I used my LM-2 all last year to log O2, RPM, and Nitrous fuel pressure with good results.

Re: LM-2 wideband [Re: CJK440] #612165 02/15/10 10:10 PM 02/15/10 10:10 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 15,491 the boonies aarcuda I Live Here
aarcuda I Live Here Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 15,491 the boonies	Quote: Quote: Thanks for the replies fellas. Lee, have you had a chance to use your Fast setup yet? If so how does it work and how do you like it? The RPM issue with the LM2 is whats really scaring me away from it. Some peoples work fine, and some cant get it to work. I had an RPM logging issue with an LM-1. I had to install a potentiometer in the tach signal wire to dial in a certain amount of resistance. Some people actually install a resistor. Once installed it worked great. i had an rpm loggin issue on an older lm1 (white case) i was borrowing. i bought a new one (black case) and it worked fine It's got a cop motor, a 440 cubic inch plant, it's got cop tires, cop suspensions, cop shocks. It's a model made before catalytic converters so it'll run good on regular gas.

Re: LM-2 wideband [Re: aarcuda] #612166 02/16/10 02:43 PM 02/16/10 02:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,982 Ansonia, CT C CJK440 master
CJK440 master C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,982 Ansonia, CT	Quote: Quote: Quote: Thanks for the replies fellas. Lee, have you had a chance to use your Fast setup yet? If so how does it work and how do you like it? The RPM issue with the LM2 is whats really scaring me away from it. Some peoples work fine, and some cant get it to work. I had an RPM logging issue with an LM-1. I had to install a potentiometer in the tach signal wire to dial in a certain amount of resistance. Some people actually install a resistor. Once installed it worked great. i had an rpm loggin issue on an older lm1 (white case) i was borrowing. i bought a new one (black case) and it worked fine Mine was black cased. 2017 Contusion Blue Challenger T/A 392 M6 "BLKNBLU"

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