Re: what do I use for break in oil...
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valvoline vr1 racing oil has zinc in it....should be available at your local parts store.
Valvoline VR1: Contains 75% higher zinc than SM motor oil with a balanced additive package designed to work in both racing and street-legal applications. This product will protect older style push-rod and flat tappet engines. Valvoline provides this product in both multi and mono viscosity grades: 20w50, straight 50, 10w30, straight 30, straight 40, and straight 60.
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Re: what do I use for break in oil...
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valvoline vr1 racing oil has zinc in it....should be available at your local parts store.
Valvoline VR1: Contains 75% higher zinc than SM motor oil with a balanced additive package designed to work in both racing and street-legal applications. This product will protect older style push-rod and flat tappet engines. Valvoline provides this product in both multi and mono viscosity grades: 20w50, straight 50, 10w30, straight 30, straight 40, and straight 60.
Valvoline does sell an oil that has the significant zinc level. The above oil is not it. Its as simple as this, if any oil has an API rating of SM, by regs it cant have more than a certain PPM of zinc. The oil that Valvoline sells that does have the zinc is marked "Not for street use" on it and does not have a API rating.
To the OP, did you coat the cam and lifters with lube? Are your inner valve springs pulled out, if applicable? Did you verify that you have lifter rotation? If yes to all 3, get Rotella 10-30 or 15-40. If you cant get the EOS (which GM renamed, and I cant remember the name) from a GM dealer, get a red bottle of STP and you should be good to go.
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Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
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Re: what do I use for break in oil...
[Re: JonGottaDemonDad]
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ok... I have called all over to find this with no luck I am going to use the race oil recommended. It is available at the local parts store.
One more question. Do I need to change the oil after the breakin or am I ok to just leave the race oil in the motor?
All I did was replace the lifter in the motor.
Thanks,
No Joe Gibb? Yes, change the oil after break in to flush out all the little particles.
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Re: what do I use for break in oil...
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[ The (above mentioned) valvoline racing oil is considered a street oil
Im not sure what you are asking. The VR-1 available at most auto parts store has a API SM rating on it, hence no zinc.
The good Valvoline says "Not for street use", but in theory any oil without a API rating is not supposed to be used on the street.
72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72.
Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
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Re: what do I use for break in oil...
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"Valvoline does sell an oil that has the significant zinc level. The above oil is not it. Its as simple as this, if any oil has an API rating of SM, by regs it cant have more than a certain PPM of zinc. The oil that Valvoline sells that does have the zinc is marked "Not for street use" on it and does not have a API rating.
To the OP, did you coat the cam and lifters with lube? Are your inner valve springs pulled out, if applicable? Did you verify that you have lifter rotation? If yes to all 3, get Rotella 10-30 or 15-40. If you cant get the EOS (which GM renamed, and I cant remember the name) from a GM dealer, get a red bottle of STP and you should be good to go. "
coat the cam and lifters? YES inner valve springs pulled out? N/A lifter rotation? YES
I talked to the Napa guy today and he told me about the Rotella oil as well. Sounds like a pretty solid plan. He told me he used it successfully as well.
Craig
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Re: what do I use for break in oil...
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VR1 Racing Oil (VR1) The #1 selling racing motor oil. High zinc provides race-level protection for any vehicle. High zinc/phosphorus provides extreme wear protection, including flat tappet applications Additional friction modfiers to help deliver maximum horsepower Enhanced anti-foam system protects engine during extreme stress Compatible with gasoline or alcohol fuels Available through leading auto parts retailers http://www.valvoline.com/products/consumer-products/motor-oil/racing-motor-oil/6valvoline says it has high zinc protection for flat tappets...and available through leading auto parts retailers... been using the 20w-50 for several years now..with solid lifter cams..
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Re: what do I use for break in oil...
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I lost a new cam last year. talked to Comp. several times. the tech guy there told me to use the break in additive #159 and that VR1 is what they recomend.
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