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Anyone gonna try Thompson's 8.90 heads up class? #586885
01/18/10 08:18 PM
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I've been watching all the conversations about this for several months on YB and this morning Butch sent me a link that says they're gonna give it a try.


"We will be having a 'test session' in early May and if we have a good showing Jim Curtis
will be adding the 8.90 class to run on all of Thompson Raceway's ASPHALT WARS dates!!!


BODY/INTERIOR

1. Full-bodied factory street type cars (domestic and import)
2. Working Headlights and Taillights mandatory, this means headlights NOT foglamps
3. NO DRAGSTERS, ROADSTERS, ALTERDS OR CENTER STEER CARS
4. Must be street appearing/no gutted interiors/carpetedinterior even if rear seat is removed (The interior should look clean
andprofessionally done)
5. Must have interior door panels
6. Racecar lettering on windows only (minor exceptions may apply)
7. Back half or stock REAR suspension permitted
8. Windows, Lexan permitted (Roll down windows optional)
9. Must have stock style front suspension
10. No full round or square tube chassis cars
11. Any size drive tires permitted

ELECTRONICS

12. Bracket Racing Aids: No throttle stops, No Electric shifters or Optical sensors.
13. No delay boxes or other driver aided electronics.
The application or use of any device, mechanical or electronic, that permit the driver to ascertain the position of their vehicle in
relation to the starting line is prohibited.
14. Progressive Nitrous controller system permitted
15. No electric or air shifters.

SAFETY

All cars must meet all current IHRA/NHRA SAFETY REQUIREMENTS
Drivers are required to wear the required safety equipment for the ET's that are being run.

RULES COMMITTEE

All cars will be reviewed by a RULES COMMITTEE to ensure they meet the spirit of the class. Fairness is all we are promoting.

THERE WILL BE NO 'GUTTED' RACECARS PERMITTED TO RACE, IF THE CAR DOESN'T FIT THE SPIRIT OF THE RULES IT WILL NOT RACE WITH THE 8.90
INDEX CARS.

FORMAT

1/4 MILE RACE
8.90 INDEX
.400 PRO TREE (COURTESY STAGING IN EFFECT)
16 CAR QUALIFIED FIELD
CARS QUALIFIED 8.8999 OR QUICKER ARE SITUATED AFTER THE SLOWEST
QUALIFIED CAR IN THE FINAL QUALIFYING ORDER.
PROFESSIONAL RUN ORDER (1 VS. 16, 2 VS. 15, ETC.)
DOUBLE BREAKOUT CLOSEST TO 8.90 WINS

IF 20 OR MORE CARS ENTERED THERE WILL BE A GAMBLER STYLE RACE AMOUNGST CARS QUALIFIED NO. 17 AND LOWER (WE WANT EVERYONE TO
RACE)

IF ONLY 19 CARS ARE ENTERED, QUALIFIED CARS NO. 17, 18 AND 19 WILL BE ABLE TO RACE IN THE TRACKS REGULAR BRACKET PROGRAM

PAYOUTS/ENTRY

ENTRY FEE $50.00 at the gate

PAYOUT IS 100 PERCENT !!

80 PERCENT TO WINNER
20 PERCENT TO RUNNER-UP

THESE ARE THE FINAL RULES.

please send all inquiries to; Paul Suloff VIPERAKRON@AOL.COM or Tom Cowle RAMBLERBME@YAHOO.COM.

DO NOT CONTACT THE TRACK ABOUT THE RULES.


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Re: Anyone gonna try Thompson's 8.90 heads up class? [Re: ProSport] #586886
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Now THAT looks like a fun class. With those rules a .400 tree might work, but with no minimum weight they will have to stick to their guns on the "street appearing" and "no gutted race cars".

That's racing I would like to be involved in, and I bet spectators would like it too. Good luck to Thompson, I hope it works.


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Re: Anyone gonna try Thompson's 8.90 heads up class? [Re: ProSport] #586887
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There you go Bob a little smack of spray and you are there. That is the same type of class I'm going to run up here.
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Re: Anyone gonna try Thompson's 8.90 heads up class? [Re: ProSport] #586888
01/18/10 09:26 PM
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Puttin' on the foil in Charles...
Paul Suloff is a member here, screenname is viperakron.


Earning every penny of that moderator paycheck.

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Re: Anyone gonna try Thompson's 8.90 heads up class? [Re: ProSport] #586889
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Aaahhhhhhh... a couple more months for me to tune it in and I should be able to qualify for that

Thay need a production headed class for 9.90

Re: Anyone gonna try Thompson's 8.90 heads up class? [Re: 72chrgrally] #586890
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They will not have enough cars in that area meet the criteria and run fast enough IMO. They should think about 9.90.

Re: Anyone gonna try Thompson's 8.90 heads up class? [Re: wheelsup68dart] #586891
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Oh believe me I've been putting my in all winter about how they should have a 9.90 class, not just because it fits my car but because they could fill the lanes for that class.

I think they'll have plenty of Stangs and Camaro's to get a 16 car field, I'm just trying to get some Mopars rounded up. I'd have to beat my opponent by 9 tenths on the tree to be competitive but I'd love to try the class at least once this year to support it. At Norwalk last summer only a couple cars went 8.90, the rest of the field was all over the place, but Thompson's rules are much more lenient with the big tires and lexan windows so car count won't be much of a problem. Heck I was at Thompson November 1st and couldn't believe how many 8 second hot rods were there.

Thanks NotaCharger for the info, I thought he might be a member.


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Re: Anyone gonna try Thompson's 8.90 heads up class? [Re: ProSport] #586892
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Looks like 572Charger is already on the list for the May event.

Re: Anyone gonna try Thompson's 8.90 heads up class? [Re: ProSport] #586893
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Im with you Bob, I was hoping for something like 9.90 also. I don't think my PIG will run that quick..... Even if both of us go on a diet!!!!!!! I Don't think 3000# with driver is possible. Should be a decent showing I think, There some quick GM guy's near Butler PA & those Mustang guys are all over the place.

What does the viperakron guy run??? Is he a regular at Thompson??

V10

Re: Anyone gonna try Thompson's 8.90 heads up class? [Re: V10nacuda] #586894
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heads up !!! i'll be there !! at least a couple, the pay out it 100%! 80% for the winner 20% for the runner up they allready have 30 cars which probably 1/2 will show for a 16 car field !! should be interesting!!

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Re: Anyone gonna try Thompson's 8.90 heads up class? [Re: 572charger] #586895
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Hey Jim I reckon we'll see how many 8 second street cars we got around. Should be fun.

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yeh should be cool ! com'on prosport put some spray back on it and come out and play !!!!!


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Re: Anyone gonna try Thompson's 8.90 heads up class? [Re: not_a_charger] #586897
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Paul Suloff is a member here, screenname is viperakron.




I think he is running a Camaro now........



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Re: Anyone gonna try Thompson's 8.90 heads up class? [Re: Butch] #586898
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Those are exactly the type of rules that bug me. If you have an all steel 3000# tube frame car you can't compete. Please explain how if running on an index a round tube frame is an advantage over a back half There are a number of 8.50 races I'd like to try but everyone seems to be against heavy full chassis cars.


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Re: Anyone gonna try Thompson's 8.90 heads up class? [Re: Bigcube] #586899
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Those are exactly the type of rules that bug me. If you have an all steel 3000# tube frame car you can't compete. Please explain how if running on an index a round tube frame is an advantage over a back half There are a number of 8.50 races I'd like to try but everyone seems to be against heavy full chassis cars.




They could allow your car by simply changing to a .500 pro tree instead of .400 pro tree. Once every car in the field is able to red light, (by virtue of the slower tree) and no delay boxes are allowed, the advantage of your tube frame goes away.


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Those are exactly the type of rules that bug me. If you have an all steel 3000# tube frame car you can't compete. Please explain how if running on an index a round tube frame is an advantage over a back half There are a number of 8.50 races I'd like to try but everyone seems to be against heavy full chassis cars.




Why aloow Lexan and not tube chassis or gutted interior? Weight is weight - and since there is no weight rule - it shouldn't matter. They don't care how you make your horsepower or how much of it you have - so eight/chassis/interior should be viewed the same as NA/NOS/Blower/Turbo/PC.

8.90 is 8.90 - aside from electronics and car type (for aesthetic reasons) - it shouldn't mater how you get there.

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I can see if they want to eliminate "panel" cars. They have no minimum weight listed. Furthermore if they wanted to remove light weigh tube frame cars they could have a minimum weight and a maximum amount of ballast to meet weight. I.E. must be 3000# and more more then 300# of ballast, or something along those lines.

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Those are exactly the type of rules that bug me. If you have an all steel 3000# tube frame car you can't compete. Please explain how if running on an index a round tube frame is an advantage over a back half There are a number of 8.50 races I'd like to try but everyone seems to be against heavy full chassis cars.




They could allow your car by simply changing to a .500 pro tree instead of .400 pro tree. Once every car in the field is able to red light, (by virtue of the slower tree) and no delay boxes are allowed, the advantage of your tube frame goes away.




I don't understand this? I can go .00X and .01X on a .400 Pro Tree and my car is back-half.

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They could allow your car by simply changing to a .500 pro tree instead of .400 pro tree. Once every car in the field is able to red light, (by virtue of the slower tree) and no delay boxes are allowed, the advantage of your tube frame goes away.




I don't understand this? I can go .00X and .01X on a .400 Pro Tree and my car is back-half.




Most back half cars can't do that. You can see by their rules that they are targeting a specific type of car for this class. Fast, street appearing cars.

Jims car is street appearing, but a tube frame chassis would usually be an advantage over a stock suspended car for reaction times on a pro tree. Since they are not allowing electronics, switching to the slower tree would mean every car COULD redlight, so every driver would have to adjust for that. To me that eliminates the advantage a chassis car would have had over a back half car.

If he has no obvious advantage, there would be no reason not to let him run this class.


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yeh should be cool ! com'on prosport put some spray back on it and come out and play !!!!!




Man I would if I could afford it. I'll be lucky to make 15 passes again this summer due to my son's baseball/football schedule.


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