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Well ... I'm almost ready for 2010 - Pump gas Hemi #579855
01/11/10 07:11 PM
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This is an 572" normally aspirated EFI Hemi on 91 octane. All Motor, no nitrous. I was very pleased with the results. I'm using the FAST XFI and the FAST coil-on-plug XIM box (no distributor).

This is replacing the wedge motor I had in my Landshark dragster. After writing about how to build Hemis I just couldn't run a wedge anymore.

I ran 8-ohs with the 700 HP wedge so the old pipe rack should really move with this thing. See you at "Mopars At The Strip" in the Quick-16.

Re: Well ... I'm almost fready for 2010 - Pump gas Hemi [Re: Mopar_Rich] #579856
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Here's the dyno sheet.

Re: Well ... I'm almost fready for 2010 - Pump gas Hemi [Re: Mopar_Rich] #579857
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OK spill your guts, what's the combination? Dave

Re: Well ... I'm almost fready for 2010 - Pump gas Hemi [Re: quickd100] #579858
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Whaaaat? - I'm not hiding anything.

World aluminum block.
10.8 CR (Diamond pistons)
Ported Stage-V Millennium heads
Indy intake that I modified for port injection.
Comp solid roller 282/286 @ .050, .700 lift.
It's not even running low tension rings.
MSD LS-1 coils.
FAST XFI/XIM with 95 lb/hr injectors and 4500 style throttle body.

Re: Well ... I'm almost fready for 2010 - Pump gas Hemi [Re: Mopar_Rich] #579859
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Re: Well ... I'm almost fready for 2010 - Pump gas Hemi [Re: Mopar_Rich] #579860
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What is the firing order?
Sweet!


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Re: Well ... I'm almost fready for 2010 - Pump gas Hemi [Re: RylisPro] #579861
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What is the firing order?
Sweet!





Is this a trick question?

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Re: Well ... I'm almost fready for 2010 - Pump gas Hemi [Re: Mopar_Rich] #579862
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Thats kicking out some hp, how much hp do you think you gained with the stage V mellennium heads?



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Re: Well ... I'm almost ready for 2010 - Pump gas Hemi [Re: rowin4] #579863
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It's all in the heads and the tune. Jeff at Modern did the CNC work. Great job! They flowed 460 CFM at .700.

Re: Well ... I'm almost fready for 2010 - Pump gas Hemi [Re: RylisPro] #579864
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Rich, just got home.. I'll still reply to your email. Just wanted to post pics of the boot we believe works with the millenium heads. It's the same as the Legend. Here are some pics. I'll be at the factory all week making T/F sets. I'm still looking for top boots in 180 exit. Trick is... boots are matched to tubes. I'll be in touch tomorrow.. Thanks for the opportunity again.





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Re: Well ... I'm almost fready for 2010 - Pump gas Hemi [Re: sunroofgtx] #579865
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C'mon Rich now you need to pony up for a set of BLACK wheels to go along with the new pipes for the full Gangsta effect!

Can't wait for the 18th to see that new bullet rip! LOL


Re: Well ... I'm almost fready for 2010 - Pump gas Hemi [Re: Mopar_Rich] #579866
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Is this a trick question?





no trick question
on the LS1 harness I'm using, I have to swap the order from 1-8-7-2-6-5-4-3
also just seeing if you used a 4/7 swap cam or not

I wish my motor could make than much power
right at the rpm where I need it too!


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Re: Well ... I'm almost fready for 2010 - Pump gas Hemi [Re: RylisPro] #579867
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Well that ought to get that little pipe rack scooting. Cant wait to see the results. Not holding my breathe for the 18th. I wont make the MATS either with the Div 7 race that weekend in AZ. One of these days I will get to see the new set up in action .That big ole Hemi in the short car will certainly look killer..I agree with Keith too on the wheels.


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Re: Well ... I'm almost fready for 2010 - Pump gas Hemi [Re: Mopar_Rich] #579868
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that really is a slick setup. not very familiar with this type of installation. do you actually run (race) it in closed loop or just use the O2 for tuning feedback and program your own maps? can that system support a knock sensor if so do you use one? didn't know if that would work thought i had heard the piezoelectric sensors may false signal on a race engine like that. what kind of pump/pressure are you using?

Re: Well ... I'm almost fready for 2010 - Pump gas Hemi [Re: jamesc] #579869
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I wanna see a picture of the intake adapters

Re: Well ... I'm almost ready for 2010 - Pump gas Hemi [Re: RylisPro] #579870
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Yes, I had to correct the firing order in the harness.

Re: Well ... I'm almost fready for 2010 - Pump gas Hemi [Re: Defbob] #579871
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I wanna see a picture of the intake adapters




I'm on vacation with my wife (it's our 42nd anniversary) but I'll post pics of the intake adapters next week.

Re: Well ... I'm almost fready for 2010 - Pump gas Hemi [Re: jamesc] #579872
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that really is a slick setup. not very familiar with this type of installation. do you actually run (race) it in closed loop or just use the O2 for tuning feedback and program your own maps? can that system support a knock sensor if so do you use one? didn't know if that would work thought i had heard the piezoelectric sensors may false signal on a race engine like that. what kind of pump/pressure are you using?




Good questions...
I use closed loop for tuning adjustments to my base map, then run open loop during the race. Closed loop for one timing pass to adjust for the track DA and changes, then open loop is more repeatable for backet racing.

You can't run a knock sensor on any engine with a solid roller cam. Too much valve train noise confuses the sensor.

Fuel pressure is 43PSI which is spec'd by the injector that's being used.

Re: Well ... I'm almost fready for 2010 - Pump gas Hemi [Re: Keith Richards] #579873
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C'mon Rich now you need to pony up for a set of BLACK wheels to go along with the new pipes for the full Gangsta effect!





Black wheels ... uhhhhmmmmmm!

Re: Well ... I'm almost fready for 2010 - Pump gas Hemi [Re: Defbob] #579874
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I wanna see a picture of the intake adapters




Here you go...

Re: Well ... I'm almost ready for 2010 - Pump gas Hemi [Re: Mopar_Rich] #579875
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Here it is - ready to r u m b l e ...

Re: Well ... I'm almost ready for 2010 - Pump gas Hemi [Re: Mopar_Rich] #579876
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It makes noise.
It has oil pressure.
What else would I want?
It's test and tune on Saturday if the Monsoon quits.

Re: Well ... I'm almost ready for 2010 - Pump gas Hemi [Re: Mopar_Rich] #579877
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Looks killer. Set on kill. Get the boot yet? I need to send some stickers!!


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Re: Well ... I'm almost ready for 2010 - Pump gas Hemi #579879
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Yep. But I decided to use the adapter plate for a generic single plane, single 4500, manifold. That means the heads were 16 bolt which limits the porting. I have used these same heads with the 10 bolt pattern, no adapter plates, and sheet metal manifold. Those flowed 525.

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Looks killer. Set on kill. Get the boot yet? I need to send some stickers!!




I haven't got the boot yet, but I'll be in contact as soon as I get it. Thanks for your help.

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Re: Well ... I'm almost ready for 2010 - Pump gas Hemi #579882
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Darren moved my ports to align closer to the carb runner positions.CFE made the intake. how much did the plates change the numbers at low lift ?




Minimal difference at <= .400 lift.
I can dig up the flow numbers and post them.
Sounds like you really maxed things out.

But because of the low compression ratio of this engine I actually wanted to use a smaller runner to get the velocity up. I have maxed out Hemi heads on low compression Hemis before and they turn into real slugs down low. Since I launch at 5000 RPM I wanted some torque to be there. The dyno curve shows that I guessed it just about right. Luck was with me.

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