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Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels !
[Re: demon]
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01/05/10 11:41 PM
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Man, you almost made me have an accident!!!  I agree! I see SO MANY people with 70 Superbee/R/T/Coronet in their signature, I don't know why this hasn't happened yet! I need FULL quarters. Skins ain't gonna make it...  If this happens, I will buy both quarters, some 68 Bee patch panels, some 68 Charger patch panels, some 70 Roadrunner full quarters and some A body Cuda patch panels in the SAME ORDER!!  So PLEASE get this done AMD!!  Dave
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Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels !
[Re: HemiDave]
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01/06/10 09:43 AM
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You guys got the right idea,if you want to see AMD make those panels,a few things are going to have to happen. You 70 Coronet guys need to get on all the Mopar/B body forums,and post a thread just like you did here. If AMD gets 50 or 60 calls a month from different people requesting them,they will see that there is a market for these parts,and then they may step up and make them! When you guys start calling them,request that they put all you guys on a list requesting the parts,not unlike a political petition,if they see some decent numbers,I think they will step up for you! The other thing,is that someone who has some NOS/rust free originals,is going to have to offer up the parts to be templated. AMD will usually either trade the parts for other parts,borrow the part,if it can be templated,without damaging it,or buy the part outright from the person that has them. The better the parts that are offered up,the better fit they will have when produced. The better parts offered,will lower tooling costs for AMD,and will get them to make the most acurate the first time,this cuts down the wait time that is needed to test fit the parts for accuracy,thus getting the part to the market faster. It took 4 times retooling/test fitting to get the 71/72 Plymouth B body rear quarter panels to fit correctly. Retooling is costly,and time consuming. I offered my 70 Charger NOS front valence to AMD to template,and now the part is ready for release. The final thing is that you guys have to step up and buy the product,and support this vendor who has done so much for this hobby! I just ordered 3 grand worth of Charger sheetmetal yesterday!
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Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels !
[Re: chargervert]
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01/06/10 01:27 PM
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You guys got the right idea,if you want to see AMD make those panels,a few things are going to have to happen. You 70 Coronet guys need to get on all the Mopar/B body forums,and post a thread just like you did here. If AMD gets 50 or 60 calls a month from different people requesting them,they will see that there is a market for these parts,and then they may step up and make them! When you guys start calling them,request that they put all you guys on a list requesting the parts,not unlike a political petition,if they see some decent numbers,I think they will step up for you! The other thing,is that someone who has some NOS/rust free originals,is going to have to offer up the parts to be templated. AMD will usually either trade the parts for other parts,borrow the part,if it can be templated,without damaging it,or buy the part outright from the person that has them. The better the parts that are offered up,the better fit they will have when produced. The better parts offered,will lower tooling costs for AMD,and will get them to make the most acurate the first time,this cuts down the wait time that is needed to test fit the parts for accuracy,thus getting the part to the market faster. It took 4 times retooling/test fitting to get the 71/72 Plymouth B body rear quarter panels to fit correctly. Retooling is costly,and time consuming. I offered my 70 Charger NOS front valence to AMD to template,and now the part is ready for release. The final thing is that you guys have to step up and buy the product,and support this vendor who has done so much for this hobby! I just ordered 3 grand worth of Charger sheetmetal yesterday!
Where the few but proud 70 Coronet owners
I don't think it will happen anytime soon... but hey can't hurt to try...
Be glad you Coronet owners were not trying to restore on 15 years ago... there was alomst no body parts available
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Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels !
[Re: 340dart4spd ]
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01/06/10 02:05 PM
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I can tell you this,you Coronet owners will have a lot better chance of seeing them made,if someone offers up the peices to template them from,than if AMD had to go look for them,you guys will have to wait a lot longer,if ever! If some wants to step up and offer up parts,and then the rest of you 70 Coronet owners get on the phone and start inquiring about them,and I mean as many of you as possible,then you may get AMD to step up and make them. When I offered them my valance for the 70 Charger,they were not intending to make them,but with a nice part right in their hands to templte from,they jumped at the chance to make them. I cannot believe the guys,that don't use AMD full rear quarter panels,thinking their saving money,buying those $300.00 skins instead! If you have to pay a body shop to put them on,you will pay more in labor,than just buying the full quarters. After you weld a 5 foot plus seam down the side of the car,then it has to be blended,with filler,and with the stress thats put on the body,if you have a strong driveline in the car,will make this seam suseptable to cracking. I'd rather put the full quarter on,and blend it at the factory seams,and be done with it!  I put a pair of Goodmark rear quarter panels on my 70 Challenger,before the AMD ones were available,and they are like tinfoil compaired to the AMD rear quarter panel I just put on my 70 Charger R/T SE. I leaned on the Goodmark Challenger rear quarter panel on the Challenger,with my palm,so I could clamp it to the outer wheelhouse,and I dented it.that would never happen with the AMD peice,its a lot thicker metal,even more thick than the originals!
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Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels !
[Re: chargervert]
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01/06/10 02:28 PM
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Add my name to the list... I've been begging them for the last 2 years... I've called them multiple times and they claim there is not enough of a market... I totally disagree... There are hundreds of 70 Coronets still left and even though a significant portion of them have already been restored with skins. Almost all could benefit from new quarter panels if they were available. The skins do not cut it I don't care how nice the rest of the car looks. I have a skin on my drivers side that makes me sick...I would buy a drivers side in a heartbeat. and I would pay premium dollar to get it... I don't care if AMD charges double for a 70 panel over what they charge for a 68-69...just as long as they make them! I also want them to build the 71-74 charger bulge hood and 73-74 charger full quarter panels too... I hear they are building the early 63-65 B-Body full quarter panels... I can't believe there are more cars in that range that people want to restore vs. a 70 coronets but that's just me! ****** COUNT ME IN ****************** I'll sign anywhere! 
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Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels !
[Re: OLD318]
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01/06/10 03:00 PM
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Like I said,someone who's been hording the parts,has to offer up,and the other owners have to show them there is a market! AMD will be way more likely to make the part if they have nice parts to template them from. AMD is in buisness to sell parts. They are spending a fortune tooling up parts for us during a dismal economy! AMD would like nothing more than to make every part that the hobby desires,but if they go out of buisness doing it,we will all be out of luck! They are Mopar and AMC guys,if not for that fact,I don't think we would have seen all the great parts that they have alredy made for us. They have earned,and deserve our full support!
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70 Charger R/T SE 472 Hemi
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70 Charger R/T V Code Sixpack
69 Charger R/T SE Sunroofcar
68 Charger 383
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70 Challenger convertible
71 Challenger convertible
71 Cuda 340
09 Challenger R/T Classic
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Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels !
[Re: chargervert]
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01/08/10 12:41 AM
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1/4 panels are the only body part missing now for 70 coronets. There are reproduction rad supports,inner fenders,doors,rocker panels,roof skins,full floor pans,full trunkfloors,outer wheelhouses,trunk extensions,rear crossmembers,shock crossmembers,frame rails etc all made by AMD.But no 1/4 panels.
Fenders,hoods,trunklids and tail panels can all be used from 4 doors but we NEED 1/4 panels. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!
Come on eveyone,contact AMD and convince them to make these much needed panels.
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Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels !
[Re: QuickSilver]
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01/08/10 12:34 PM
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 great job; good metal crafters like you are hard to find and I totally agree that more useable metal is cut out of cars than necessary most of the time. My instruction to my guys was to save every pce of original metal wherever possible. I even had them cut a pce about 2" x 5" out of a repop panel to fix a small spot on the drivers floor rather than simply hack the whole thing out and replace it.....it would have been easier, but this was far better IMO. I think we threw out more lbs of repop metal than we used..... My passenger 1/4 was hit at some point and it looked like they used a ball peen hammer to beat it back into shape and then slathered it with filler up to 1/2" thick!  I talked to the shop about trying to fix it but they convinced me that it was too far gone........I kinda wish I pushed the issue more; sounds like you could have done it. ..keep up the great work! Dave
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Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels !
[Re: DPelletier]
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01/08/10 06:36 PM
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The skins do not cut it I don't care how nice the rest of the car looks.
You and I have had this discussion before; I totally agree that the skins are not great and would love it if AMD made a full quarter panel, BUT I have the original quarter on the drivers side and a repop skin on the passenger side (albeit with the original scoop and marker light area welded in) and I defy you to tell the difference........but I paid ALOT of money in additional metal and bodywork to make that happen.
I looked for several years for an NOS passenger quarter to no avail.... 
Again; I'm not saying the skins are good, only that a skilled metal and body man can do a good job with one if he is given enough time to do so. My bodyman was obsessive enough that he wanted the light reflections in the paint to look the same from side to side and panel to panel....
Then again, I remember seeing an old timer european metal fabricator MAKE a quarter for a '56 Thunderbird from a flat sheet!
Dave
I thought the point of this post was to garner enough interest
or at least get a good guage for the amount interest that exists out there,
to hopefully try and prod AMD to produce 70
Coronet OEM Style quarter panels.
Not to rave about how nice a skin can be made to look!
or how nice it happens to look on your car.
I'm sure with enough time and money,
and yes a very skilled metal man,
you can get these to look as good as you want to pay for...
But let' face it If skins were so good,
then why did AMD, Goodmark and the other place (that did the charger quarter panels)
ante up and create factory style quarter panels for every other car except ours?
Why?,,, because skins SU&&!
The point is,
Why should the average guy pay 40-100 hours (or more) on labor to get a
skin shaped, sculpted, hammered, dollied, shrunk,
bondo'd,
sanded and formed to look like a factory one
When he could weld on a OEM style quarter in 16 hours?
(Thats the book time on the 70 Coronet crash sheets to do a complete R&R of a factory Quarter Panel)
Granted,
if you have the money to pay someone to do this,
God bless you!
If the skin looks gorgeous when its done...
God bless you a hundred times!
If your 70 Coronet project car just happens
to be one of the 1% of the remaining cars on
the face of the earth that just happens to have an excellent rear clip on it to start with...
God bless you a thousand times!
(go buy a lotto ticket while your at it cuz your a lucky man!)
For the rest of us...
Who don't have this kind of coin,
this kind of car
or access to gods gift to metal men...
Join us in prodding AMD to build us one!
All AMD needs to hear is 1 or 2 of us rave about
a skin and we will have ZERO chance of getting OEM Style quarters made.
(Perhaps Zero is really all the chance we have anyway,,regardless)...
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Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels !
[Re: OLD318]
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01/08/10 07:40 PM
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The skins do not cut it I don't care how nice the rest of the car looks.
You and I have had this discussion before; I totally agree that the skins are not great and would love it if AMD made a full quarter panel, BUT I have the original quarter on the drivers side and a repop skin on the passenger side (albeit with the original scoop and marker light area welded in) and I defy you to tell the difference........but I paid ALOT of money in additional metal and bodywork to make that happen.
I looked for several years for an NOS passenger quarter to no avail....
Again; I'm not saying the skins are good, only that a skilled metal and body man can do a good job with one if he is given enough time to do so. My bodyman was obsessive enough that he wanted the light reflections in the paint to look the same from side to side and panel to panel....
Then again, I remember seeing an old timer european metal fabricator MAKE a quarter for a '56 Thunderbird from a flat sheet!
Dave
I thought the point of this post was to garner enough interest
or at least get a good guage for the amount interest that exists out there,
to hopefully try and prod AMD to produce 70
Coronet OEM Style quarter panels.
Not to rave about how nice a skin can be made to look!
or how nice it happens to look on your car.
I'm sure with enough time and money,
and yes a very skilled metal man,
you can get these to look as good as you want to pay for...
But let' face it If skins were so good,
then why did AMD, Goodmark and the other place (that did the charger quarter panels)
ante up and create factory style quarter panels for every other car except ours?
Why?,,, because skins SU&&!
The point is,
Why should the average guy pay 40-100 hours (or more) on labor to get a
skin shaped, sculpted, hammered, dollied, shrunk,
bondo'd,
sanded and formed to look like a factory one
When he could weld on a OEM style quarter in 16 hours?
(Thats the book time on the 70 Coronet crash sheets to do a complete R&R of a factory Quarter Panel)
Granted,
if you have the money to pay someone to do this,
God bless you!
If the skin looks gorgeous when its done...
God bless you a hundred times!
If your 70 Coronet project car just happens
to be one of the 1% of the remaining cars on
the face of the earth that just happens to have an excellent rear clip on it to start with...
God bless you a thousand times!
(go buy a lotto ticket while your at it cuz your a lucky man!)
For the rest of us...
Who don't have this kind of coin,
this kind of car
or access to gods gift to metal men...
Join us in prodding AMD to build us one!
All AMD needs to hear is 1 or 2 of us rave about
a skin and we will have ZERO chance of getting OEM Style quarters made.
(Perhaps Zero is really all the chance we have anyway,,regardless)...
Alright, I'll be quiet and I do hope AMD makes the quarters for everyone else's sake. My ONLY point in responding was you implied that a car with a skin couldn't look good; which is incorrect.........although it cost me way too much money to make that skin look good and a decent quarter would have been money well spent indeed.
If you don't tell me my car is inferior because it has a skin, I won't respond again on these "please make us a quarter panel" threads again, deal?
Dave
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1974 'Cuda
2008 Ram 3500 Diesel
2006 Ram 3500 Diesel
2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel
2003 Ram 3500 Diesel
2006 Durango Limited
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Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels !
[Re: DPelletier]
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01/08/10 08:32 PM
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Gee Dave, your right! I'm sorry! I need to quit firing off at the mouth and be more politically correct and sensitive to all of our skinned Coronets out there.. hmmm...How about this... "With a few notable exceptions... (the most notable being in Kelowna, BC Canada!) 70 Coronets with quarter skins look like SH**!" Shucks... You know what I'm tryin to say... the words are just not comin... TGIF!!!!
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