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Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! #53849
02/14/08 08:56 PM 02/14/08 08:56 PM
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Just saw my car with paint for the first time today. If that doesn't motivate I don't know what does. Actually scare is probably a better word.

Informal poll: Should I have them wet sand it to a ridiculously perfect glass sheen or leave it with some orange peel for an OE look? I can't imagine paying big $$ for orange peel but figured I would take the pulse of friends here.

Thanks,

EW

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Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: sg333e] #53850
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Yep............that is motivation at its best. I know you are proud. Funny because I think you posted some comments a few weeks ago about some body work and sanding questions that I had. Look at you now! Maybe next month I will have mine ready. Looks really nice...........the lines especially.
Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: sg333e] #53851
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Very Sweet! It is great to see color after extended prep time. You lost Oe look when you went base coat clear coat (which is cool by me) the ridiculous shine is the way to go but you may consider waiting til you are done, because some touch up will be required unless you are a lot more careful than me. Just make sure they protect it from getting compound in the jambs and hard to clean areas.

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Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: mopar346] #53852
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Looks awesome.

I don't prefer the orange peel look on a base-clear paint job. Looks unfinished.
Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: Neil] #53853
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ERIC, if you are going to restore the car with all correct date coded parts and everything correct, then go with a glossy top parts on the car and go orange peel on the lower sections of the car, then you got the best of both worlds, thats what i did on my 68 hemi roadrunner.
if your not going with all original oe parts then go all glossy paint and no orange peel.
Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! #53854
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Make it slick.

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Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: MLR426] #53855
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Looking great. I like them slick too. Most of the people that will look at the car will appreciate it slick also.
Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: Dave Watt] #53856
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Nice!
Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: Dave Watt] #53857
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IMO, I think glossy and smooth is more accepted in the show car arena. Don't try to duplicate the factory imperfections. Only a select few will appreciate the standards of originality but it really depends on what you want.

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Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: sg333e] #53858
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if you're payng for it, make it slick as glass,why would you want a badass car to look like it has cheap paint job?

Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: Dave Watt] #53859
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On BC/CC definitely wet sand the heck out of it.

S/S on an older car, I actually prefer a little orange peel.

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Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #53860
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IMO, I think glossy and smooth is more accepted in the show car arena. Don't try to duplicate the factory imperfections. Only a select few will appreciate the standards of originality but it really depends on what you want.



I am in agreement with everyone on here on the topside. Now the question is the bottom. My intention is to replicate primer/overspray as opposed to body color. If the top is "over restored" and the bottom is primer/overspray I still think that works...the guy I bought my GN from had an OE gold 67 GTX. Said he figured the point deduction for paint being too nice was worth it.

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Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: sg333e] #53861
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Shine it up Eric.
Looks great.
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Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: sg333e] #53862
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IMO, I think glossy and smooth is more accepted in the show car arena. Don't try to duplicate the factory imperfections. Only a select few will appreciate the standards of originality but it really depends on what you want.



I am in agreement with everyone on here on the topside. Now the question is the bottom. My intention is to replicate primer/overspray as opposed to body color. If the top is "over restored" and the bottom is primer/overspray I still think that works...the guy I bought my GN from had an OE gold 67 GTX. Said he figured the point deduction for paint being too nice was worth it.





Replicating overspray is 'over restored' in my book. Why intentionally crap up a nice paint job trying to replicate factory sloppiness? Your paint looks great!

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Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: sg333e] #53863
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I am in agreement with everyone on here on the topside. Now the question is the bottom. My intention is to replicate primer/overspray as opposed to body color. If the top is "over restored" and the bottom is primer/overspray I still think that works...the guy I bought my GN from had an OE gold 67 GTX. Said he figured the point deduction for paint being too nice was worth it.



I agree, take the deductions. Especially if you don't intend on taking it for OE Level Nats Judging. Anything less will not be much of an issue.

I think bigger would be leaving the factory waves and welding spatter on the engine compartment and underneath it. Might be tough to do if you did some metal work on the car. Just don't get too anxious on the rotissere and start smoothing everything out.

To bad my car was painted in 1993. It's engine compartment is overdone.

Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: autoxcuda] #53864
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Very nice.
I am very envious. I hope to see mine at the stage you're at in about 2 months. I took mine to painter last month, he told me to expect completion about April. I'm nervous about getting it back and having to put it together.


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Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: tx9cuda] #53865
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If you plan on mostly local shows instead, I think the painted underside would be a better choice.
Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: tx9cuda] #53866
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why care about a little orange peel look ?if you have orange peel in bc then something is wrong.if you are looking for that factory look then its to late.bc = cheap and easy. at least its red and not brown ,dark green or any kind of silver.looks good!!!

Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: sg333e] #53867
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Looks great Keep the pictures coming!

Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: ErikR] #53868
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Looks really good. Man I would love to be that far along. I say let it shine but you do it as you would like.

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Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: sg333e] #53869
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Quote:

Should I have them wet sand it to a ridiculously perfect glass sheen



Yes! The paint is not the original factory type paint so why try and make it look stock? The base clear system is too nice not to finish it the way it was designed to be done.

Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: Lefty] #53870
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Very nice Eric
I'd go body colour and shiny everywhere if it were me.
Good luck with the rest of the resto!
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Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: sg333e] #53871
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In the Yin/Yang that is life that pic was taken Thursday, and this next one was taken Friday. I was actually on the phone with Scott Smith when this happened. Mind you I was going 45mph....I'm OK, just sore.

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Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: sg333e] #53872
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It looks great!

Keep the pics coming!


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Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: 69_SIX_PACK] #53873
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Have them make as silky smooth as possible

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Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #53874
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IMO, I think glossy and smooth is more accepted in the show car arena. Don't try to duplicate the factory imperfections. Only a select few will appreciate the standards of originality but it really depends on what you want.




....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!
Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: 69_SIX_PACK] #53875
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here is a pic of the bottom of my super bee,the rest of the car will be painted this week end

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Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: badsixpack] #53876
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here is another,i also went with the shiney black all the way
Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: badsixpack] #53877
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Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: sg333e] #53878
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Well I can see both sides of the coin. But from my perspective I would rather error on the side of "looks too nice" than later be disappointed you didn't go far enough. Plus with time, that super glossy look will fad a bit, and bring it down just a tad. I once put my challenger together and put 2 mufflers on it and 2 resonators on it, because I thought I wanted it quiet like it was originally. But after a while I really figured out what I wanted. So I learned from that. But my lesson isn't as expensive as yours. Car looks sweet though.
Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: moparmojo] #53879
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UPDATED: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: fig426] #53881
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OK, so life gets in the way sometimes but we are back on track now...check it out.

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Re: UPDATED: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: sg333e] #53882
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One more....

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Re: UPDATED: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: sg333e] #53883
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Would you guys fix this? Looks like a hole that was to be punched in framerail didn't get completed....

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Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: ErikR] #53884
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I agree Eric, since you went base clear you will take a hit concerning OE, but only a minor one. Go ahead and shine it up. HOWEVER, I'd highly reccomend a proper OE style grey sealer/primer with color over spray from the sides on the underside just like you have now. The fully painted undercarriage is a dated (and incorrect) look from back in the days that many people just didn't know any better. If you ever decide to sell the car I can gaurantee you that it will drive away a good many potential buyers.

*On the frame....Grind it, fill it, smooth it, carefully fog on some red paint to cover the work
Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #53885
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Thanks Scott....I hope you know that was the finished product:) It's showing up lighter and shinier than normal because that's in the paint booth with all the flourescents blasting.

On the framerail question...there is a corresponding hole on the other side, so are you saying punch it out and fix it or smooth it over?

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Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: sg333e] #53886
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my buddies wanted me to paint the bottom of the car. I am sooooo glad I didn't. Love the overspray look. To me it just looks right. Just like ma mopar did it.

Your car is looking good.

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Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: sg333e] #53887
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Don't touch the frame rail!
That's a stock impression.
The hole is only punched on the driver's side.
Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: sg333e] #53888
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Informal poll: Should I have them wet sand it to a ridiculously perfect glass sheen or leave it with some orange peel

EW





IMHO,....nothing looks better than a slick mirror finish

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Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: RestoRick] #53889
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Yea, Ricks right, I didn't realize what I was looking at when I commented. Let her be.
Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: sg333e] #53890
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My thinking on stuff like this is: If you want factory to the bone, then shoot it with what the factory used, Acrylic Enamel. otherwise..buff it to look pretty!

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Re: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #53891
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Got it on the frame rail, thanks guys for that.

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Good news Eric, you now have a complete correctly dated starter to go with all of that fine lookin' sheet metal. Will be assembled later this week. Still looking for a correct front shell for the alternator...
Re: UPDATED: Ladies and Gentlemen: We have color! [Re: sg333e] #53893
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The car looks fantastic!!! One thing you need though: have your painter put paint on your wiper motor studs...
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The car looks fantastic!!! One thing you need though: have your painter put paint on your wiper motor studs...



Yep, Jules already reminded me on that one.

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