well i figure if i got to go all the way into either rebuild all the way or replace it .either,or one of the two is going to get done.. : cam lobe gone

remove and replace the plug wires on at a time while the engine is running/popping. wear insulated golves and use insulated pliers. also have all eight plugs loose already to make it easier. when you get to a cylinder and the popping stops. write down what cylinder that was. if thats the case.. then most likly a bad valve. highly doubt its a cam lobe. its not a chevy LOL.

the back rocker on the #7 does not move.the push rod just sits thereand spins from the vibration.the back rocker on the #8 has tension on it but hardly moves either. so if im wrong for thinking its the cam please let me know before i go rebuild the whole darn thing...

While you are turning it over or when the engine is running? both? I didn't catch that part. You must've wiped some lobes which let the pushrods get out and get bent. Do a leakdown on it and see how 7 and 8 compare with the rest. If you lost a two lobes, you'll still be taking it all down to get the debris out, replace inserts, check out everything else.

i disconected the ignition coil just to spin it over and saw that they wernt doing anything. then i crunk it up and let it run they still didnt move. so i guess that i will go ahead and just rebuild..