J body 81 Mirada... pros & cons as a race car platform?
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11/10/09 03:11 PM
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dem440c
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I have toyed off and on with the idea of doing some low budget bracket racing, maybe I'm wasting y'alls time with this question but if I'm going to research the subject, what better place to start than right here? So I had this 81 Dodge Mirada drop into my yard cheap, and I'm looking at the foam bumpers and all and I figure that with the interior and all other non-essentials stripped out this would be a pretty light car. A quick internet search puts the published curb weight at around 3300 lb so sans carpet, heater box, seats, panels, dash, etc. it should be around 3000 lb maybe? ... it wouldn't take an awful lot of engine to get a car of this weight into the bottom of a beginner's bracket at the local track. This is my thought process, anyhow. So.... I have only superficial knowledge about going fast at the strip, I do not have the wisdom or experience about the details of setting up a race car to know if this is a workable platform. The initial attempt would be pretty slow by race car standards, but perhaps I would look to get faster with it as time progresses. I know the J body has the transverse torsion bar design, don't know if this is a good or bad thing for handling. Don't know if there are other major flaws to this chassis design that have to be accounted for. Just wondering if the good folks in the Mopar race car forum may have some experience or knowledge to drop on me
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Re: J body 81 Mirada... pros & cons as a race car platform?
[Re: dem440c]
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11/10/09 06:22 PM
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My J body was 3350 lbs with a 360/999/8 3/4 and 3550 lbs with a 440/727/8 3/4.
A 1966-1967 B body 8 3/4 goes in with just the locating holes opened up for the J body.
The gas tank straps can be loosened off and the tank moved over towards the passenger side one indent to make room for better dual exhaust clearance.
The rear half of a two piece driveshaft from a 1973 and newer Dodge ClubCab longbox will bolt in if you have a 727 and an 8 3/4 rear.
To clear a 440 with PB I used a K car brake booster, bolted right in and worked well.
Aside from the driver's side header a 440 is basically a bolt in swap.
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Re: J body 81 Mirada... pros & cons as a race car platform?
[Re: scatpacktom]
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11/10/09 08:54 PM
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Oh No,Tommy D, I'm not the "go to" Mirada guy now
I have been working on a Mirada Stocker. It is a 360 with a 904.It weighs about 3450 with a driver.It has a 8 3/4 out of a 67 B body in it, seems to fit ok.This past weekend it went 11.86 at 111.96. Not too bad for the cars 6th pass down the 1320 with the new motor. I will say the car is very user friendly with a small block. I'd say go for it,but don't tell anybody I told you to
This car sounds great
HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!
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Re: J body 81 Mirada... pros & cons as a race car platform?
[Re: dem440c]
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11/11/09 10:32 AM
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Dan its easy and fun to get started with a mild 318 car. My car is a very mild 318 car. Less than $1200.00 in the engine carb to pan. Runs 8.90 to 9.05 (1/8)turning it well under 5 grand. Could easily get more from it. I'm looking at consistancy & winning rounds. There is a Mirida that runs in Super Stock/Stock class at Roxboro Dragway just north or Raleigh. I have only seen it a few times, but seems to run very well. Painted like the old Paul Rossi car. Heck it may even be that car. Where in Youngsville do you live. Thought I was the only Mopar guy in that town???
2005 Dakota 4X4 3.7
2004 Rumble Bee 5.7
1978 Diplomat 318
1969 Satellite 318 "bracket racer"
1966 Barracuda (in progress )
1964 Dodge 330 (future race project)
1962 Belvedere (HUM????)
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Re: J body 81 Mirada... pros & cons as a race car platform?
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11/11/09 11:44 PM
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Mine weighs 3180 with me in it. How do you guys do it? My 340 blown volare weighs 3675 w/o driver. Part of the bumper reinforcements are trimmed,no spare,full exhaust,a/c stuff in the dash,manual steering and brakes,weld wheels. It's a street diver but what a pig. I can just imagine how it would run 500 lbs lighter. Bset to date 11.01@122 Doug
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