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Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your story [Re: fullmetaljacket] #506297
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I hope you guys could do something---years ago even when NYC was broke they couldn't make it happen.
I don't know if you guys have the same problem back there,but in the mid-90s I was approached by a group of streetracers who were looking to set-up a place. Like NHRA of a million years ago they came to local law enforcement & asked for our help. I/we (PHx PD drag Team) were more than willing to assist but the issue of actually running the "track", tech & security came up suddenly the group wanted no part of it. Their idea was to simply have a public road where they could be left alone and the City would maintain it for them. Sorry but when you're talking a semi-organized deal & a City involved "THEY" are gonna want to know the details to insure it's safe---makes sense to me. When I brought that up NO ONE would step-up & see it through. Hope you guys don't run into that.......

Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your story [Re: fullmetaljacket] #506298
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Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your story [Re: fullmetaljacket] #506299
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Dualies/trailers are not allowed on the Belt. Besides the same traffic jams are created when a run is going off anyway.LOL.
Like Hyper80sonic said, It would create so much revenue and incentive school programs along with Summer jobs for the whole of New York's young adults.
Build and they will come.




FMJ, remember when they did runs on Flatbush AV
extension (adjacent to Floyd Bennett Field)? They
ran both ways from the parkway up/Kings Plaza
to parkway.



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Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your story [Re: HYPER8oSoNic] #506300
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Ah Fugggetttabbouttitt!! We are ALL the same behind the wheel, under the hood or on the sidelines. It's just the ignorant ones who bring the tensionon!!




Sheeeeeeeeeeeeet...some are a LOT better than others when "behind the wheel" and "under the hood."

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Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your story [Re: Qwik426] #506301
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Ah Fugggetttabbouttitt!! We are ALL the same behind the wheel, under the hood or on the sidelines. It's just the ignorant ones who bring the tensionon!!




Sheeeeeeeeeeeeet...some are a LOT better than others when "behind the wheel" and "under the hood."

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That may be true of driving skill, but the issue
here is the BS that keeps us from having good runs
/helping out one another to run better/good friendship and sportsmanship and keeping things
SAFE and ORDERLY. Fights, drunkeness, disagreements due to social/religious backgrounds
even RACE, is not my idea of enjoying "late night
runs" or spectating/running at the strip. A lot
of DIFFERENT folks from DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE
helped make this mode of sportsman/pro event very
popular all over the U.S. In short, it's bad enough to have conflict with other countries, but
to have conflict and hatred toward each other here
in the U.S., is just plain NONSENSE!! Many guys and gals paved the way in this sport for us to not
only learn technology, but to evolve from the cancer of racial tension. It is only THOSE WHO
CHOOSE TO BE IGNORANT TO OTHERS THAT CREATE THESE
PROBLEMS AMONGTS US!!! And that is just STUPID!!!




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Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your story [Re: fullmetaljacket] #506302
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I just discovered a Floyd Bennett Field alternative spot in the south Bronx.
Just as you would take the Willets Ave bridge into the Bronx and take the right right off ramp to get onto Bruckner Blvd. Well, right there to the right on the down slope off ramp on the Willets sits a semi deserted concrete strip about 3/4 mile long with plenty of room on both sides for spectators.

A Big Willie move is needed. New York City needs a track NOW!




Is that off of Willis Av bridge or alongside the Bruckner? I am on my "Haught Map", locating it!!


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Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s [Re: HYPER8oSoNic] #506303
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Just under and besides the Willis avenue bridge. It runs parallel to some freight railroad tracks that go under the bridge as well. It can only be seen from the right side of the off ramp of the bridge just before coming to the traffic light at the bottom where the intersection of Bruckner Blvd is.
About a true half mile long or more concrete pad. I can't see the rest of it. I'd like to know the night watchman.LOL.

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Just under and besides the Willis avenue bridge. It runs parallel to some freight railroad tracks that go under the bridge as well. It can only be seen from the right side of the off ramp of the bridge just before coming to the traffic light at the bottom where the intersection of Bruckner Blvd is.
About a true half mile long or more concrete pad. I can't see the rest of it. I'd like to know the night watchman.LOL.




I believe I know the spot you are talking about!!
It is a good spot, especially if the concrete
can be redone and close to mirror smooth!!



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Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s [Re: HYPER8oSoNic] #506305
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It looks to me like the old school "China Rock" surface concrete which was the primo surface face back on 150th St hey days.

The Connecting got a new face lift about ten years back but they stopped the concrete just before the starting bridge line. The black top at the hole is warped and hurt, not ideal for what plays today.

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It looks to me like the old school "China Rock" surface concrete which was the primo surface face back on 150th St hey days.

The Connecting got a new face lift about ten years back but they stopped the concrete just before the starting bridge line. The black top at the hole is warped and hurt, not ideal for what plays today.




I think they "planned that" for when it was constructed, Lee. Maybe to discourge the heavy
hitters from making a "comeback" to the place!!
Or, it could be an occurring fault line in design
too, after all they had some oil tanker burn down
on the roadway, several years back!! FYI
I do miss that "China Rock" surface, man it gave
some good bite!!



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Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s [Re: HYPER8oSoNic] #506307
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floyd bennet field is govt property.they aren't interested in jobs or community.hey rick i remember us being the only white guys at columbia street.we never had trouble.

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floyd bennet field is govt property.they aren't interested in jobs or community.hey rick i remember us being the only white guys at columbia street.we never had trouble.




Floyd Bennett Airfield has changed hands to the
Coast Guard, Reservists Training Area and protected land to Jamaica Bay Wildlife Preserve
and such. Yes, it is government property, but
explain to me why SCCA sanctioned events RAN
there and NOT drag racing NHRA events? Sort of
like the road couse in Suffolk County, L.I. Bridgeport or Bridgehampton (near Brookhaven Lab
Complex). I may have not gotten the name of the track right. Check on it please? By the
way, really nobody had problems at Columbia
Street. It was just a bottleneck place to run!!!


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Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s [Re: HYPER8oSoNic] #506309
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Columbia St. was where I got my first glimpse of the infamous Deuce and a quarter's running like scolded dogs out of the hole with a shot of hidden smack.
Those Buick's were animals on smack.

Cars would roll in there with Pro-Stock style lettering on their sides and all.
Any one remember "The Chrysler Killer" 67'GTO or TNT's mean 4-speed Malibu with hundreds of stickers and decals along with spiked snow tires for traction?
How about the "Nova-caine" Chevy deuce or O'nells Maroon 67' stick shift Chevelle?

Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s [Re: fullmetaljacket] #506310
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tnt that that guy would run that car from morning till night, with that big sunoco stickers on the doors, George with the chrysler killer was always there but never seemed to run. big Neal and Roy had that red 77 riv. that ran high 10s with the wide whites & spokes. Percys buick, Richies olds, the paper car,the brownsville killer Moms chop bbg. I loved that place made some money there lost some to. drank alot of bud nipps there, thanks for the memories

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Anybody here old enough to have witnessed the million dollar race between the Ronald Lyles crew with their Hemidart against some guys from NJ with a rat motored camaro?

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hemicop, I wasn't as clear as I should have been in my post from page 5 of this thread, my bad. All the street racing witnessed firsthand by me happened in Montgomery after I moved here.

However, here are the several pics of the street racing going on at 6th street.

The only folks/cars I can identify are Lonnie F's Anglia in pic #1, Scott S' 1969 GTX in pics 3-5, and Charlie M's 1969 Camaro in pics 7-8.

Lonnie always ran Ford small blocks in black machines. Prior to the Anglia he owned a wicked looking 1965 Falcon with wrinkle wall slicks out back/Cragar S/S all the way around. Unfortunately I have no pics of that one.

Charlie had pulled the Camaro out of a junkyard in its original non-running green/green/307 configuration and turned it into a really sweet ride dark blue with gold stripes running a stroked chevy small block/4 speed/3.73 12 bolt riding on chromed Centerlines.

Scott's GTX was an original 440/red/black/console auto car with great top end.

















Great thread everyone

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I heard that George's reason for the "Chrysler Killer" logo was that he was constantly trying to over throw his little brothers mean 70' Cuda and could never get it together. Brotherly rivals just like my friend Curtis with his stompin' Mopars out of Brooklyn and his bitter little Brother with his sad Pontiac's that never get out of the 13teens.

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I know some of the guys including the Camaro owners and where that Camaro is recently.
I just saw the J&B Automotive shop get torn down about 5 years back right here in my neighborhood.
Heavies place is still there but under new people.

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hemicop, I wasn't as clear as I should have been in my post from page 5 of this thread, my bad. All the street racing witnessed firsthand by me happened in Montgomery after I moved here.

However, here are the several pics of the street racing going on at 6th street.

The only folks/cars I can identify are Lonnie F's Anglia in pic #1, Scott S' 1969 GTX in pics 3-5, and Charlie M's 1969 Camaro in pics 7-8.

Lonnie always ran Ford small blocks in black machines. Prior to the Anglia he owned a wicked looking 1965 Falcon with wrinkle wall slicks out back/Cragar S/S all the way around. Unfortunately I have no pics of that one.

Charlie had pulled the Camaro out of a junkyard in its original non-running green/green/307 configuration and turned it into a really sweet ride dark blue with gold stripes running a stroked chevy small block/4 speed/3.73 12 bolt riding on chromed Centerlines.

Scott's GTX was an original 440/red/black/console auto car with great top end.




Great pix, they remind me of the good ol' daze of street machining, cruising and hanging out with like-minded gearheads during the mid-late-1970s to the latter part of the 1980s. My friends and my cars (plus most other cars on the street at that time) were not 100% show car restored and OEM original, perfect to the max (like today) and we didn't care! We had a blast and that is what counted.

Here's my car from Friday evening June 17th, 1988 in line for tech at Raceway Park, the one and only time I drag raced it (on the strip ).



My car was an 114,000+ mile original 440 GTX w/Torqueflite trans, 3.23-geared 8 & 3/4 rear (non-Suregrip) with power steering and manual brakes that I converted to 1968 Street Hemi power during Fall-Spring 1986-87.

The HEMI's hp and torque was transferred to the ground via a 1970 Hemi 4-speed trans from a wrecked 1970 440 GTX, and a 3.54 Dana from a 440 4-speed 1968 GTX that I parted out in 1977 on out to the L60 x 15 Pro-Trac tires (hard street compound) mounted on Centerline aluminum rims.

The HEMI engine was a standard bore Hemi from an 1968 Dodge Charger R/T Hemicar that I had bored +.020" oversize with a Sig Erson .515/.505"/276 degree duration mechanical cam. In a nutshell, it was basically a stock rebuild Street Hemi engine with 2 & 1/8" dia. Hooker Headers, electronic ignition and Direct Connection aluminum water pump housing.

It was a fun car and great street cruiser. My best time through the mufflers (no H-pipe exhaust system) was 13.78 @105.50 with tons of tire spin (2.20 60 ft. times). Not too bad a performance for a mid-90s temp, very humid Friday evening and (at that time) 250 lb. driver pulling the Hurst shifter handle.

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P.S. I forgot to add that I installed an adjustable pinion snubber on top of the Dana center section that gave me a 'bump' each time I powershifted a gear.

P.P.S. I just remembered: I also moved the battery from the engine compartment to the trunk mainly because a section of the inner fender panel area and battery tray was eaten-through by battery acid!

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Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s [Re: fullmetaljacket] #506316
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Columbia St. was where I got my first glimpse of the infamous Deuce and a quarter's running like scolded dogs out of the hole with a shot of hidden smack.
Those Buick's were animals on smack.

Cars would roll in there with Pro-Stock style lettering on their sides and all.
Any one remember "The Chrysler Killer" 67'GTO or TNT's mean 4-speed Malibu with hundreds of stickers and decals along with spiked snow tires for traction?
How about the "Nova-caine" Chevy deuce or O'nells Maroon 67' stick shift Chevelle?




Lee, those Deuce-and-a-quarters were from Pee Gee
Performance. The infamous Convertable Deuce was
Scottys' own machine. He or his buddy (very cool
black dude) would alternate driving chores on it.
The car was capable of VERY LOW 11's/high 10's!!
It was definitely bottle-fed!!!



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