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Re: Barton building the crate Hemis? [Re: dannysbee] #48816
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There's hoops to jump through for everyone, it's not a one way street. At times the vendor makes the OEM do all kinds of work... It goes both ways.

BTW, if anyone's interested, 528 crate motors are beginning to ship again, from Barton, today. The part number has superceded up to the AE level to reflect the new build facility. They have the new block, the new AL heads, they produce noticeably more HP than advertised (and I am not going to say how much more), and MP feels they are the best 528 engine they've ever sold.

Re: Barton building the crate Hemis? [Re: ZIPPY] #48817
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"the new alum. heads" What is the scoop on them?
Who is makin them? Quality? Are they avil.? How much $

Re: Barton building the crate Hemis? [Re: Scotts71chall] #48818
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Look at the thread in the new products area on the new MP (Edelbrock) Hemi heads. MP has new aluminum as well as new cast iron heads. Nice looking stuff and reasonable prices.

Re: Barton building the crate Hemis? [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #48819
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Looking into the situation today.

Re: Barton building the crate Hemis? [Re: 64Post] #48820
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There is a big write up in the new Mopar Action about the 528 crate Hemi that Barton is building. 635 hp and 655 ft-lbs of torque with a mild hyd cam. K1 crank and rods, Diamond pistons, Edelbrock heads, etc. Nice looking stuff in those motors. If I had some spare cash I'd probably buy one of them.

Re: Barton building the crate Hemis? [Re: AndyF] #48821
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Looks like at least there are some quality name parts in there instead of stuff from who-knows- where.

Re: Barton building the crate Hemis? [Re: 64Post] #48822
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Was just scrounging around through old posts and thought I'd resurrect this one for a little update.

Backorders on 528s are almost totally cleaned up. A couple years ago there were 150+, to give you an idea at the huge amount of work involved.

At some point in the near future, MP wants anybody who orders one to get it in a week or two, tops. No more running out of blocks/heads/valvetrain and having to wait for parts....everything is on the shelf now. That goes for both parts to feed crate programs and loose parts.

I've heard some good reports of the Barton 528s also. Probably the funniest one was from the guy who said his car could do a wheelie in the driveway

The packaging on iron HEMI heads was FINALLY fixed several weeks ago, thx to Troy and Todd for helping document the problem. They did not get the foam insert that I would have liked, but they did get a very thick/heavy duty double wall box instead of that wimpy thin/single wall deal. It should be interesting to see how the packaging engineers' decision holds up, but the box looks 100% better now.

Re: Barton building the crate Hemis? [Re: ZIPPY] #48823
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Thanks for the info Andy I hope what you say is true. Matt

Re: Barton building the crate Hemis? [Re: MattW] #48824
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It's true as far as I know as well, fwiw

Re: Barton building the crate Hemis? [Re: ZIPPY] #48825
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Here is a little proof for you all. This is stamped on the pad next to the distributor.


....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!
Re: Barton building the crate Hemis? [Re: Troy] #48826
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Here is a little proof for you all. This is stamped on the pad next to the distributor.


Thanks,now I can return the favor to Ray Barton for Bad mouthing me to Barry Donnelly.I'll stamp all my junk engines like that and add a few more thousands to the cost.

Re: Barton building the crate Hemis? [Re: Troy] #48827
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Zippy, do you know what the specs of the Barton cam are.??They are rather hush- hush about them.

Re: Barton building the crate Hemis? [Re: B G Racing] #48828
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Thanks,now I can return the favor to Ray Barton for Bad mouthing me to Barry Donnelly.I'll stamp all my junk engines like that and add a few more thousands to the cost.


Well, you could talk to MP and see if they would let you start/provide the 540, 572, 588, 605 and or 638 versions. It could happen!


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Re: Barton building the crate Hemis? [Re: bwdst6] #48829
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Thanks,now I can return the favor to Ray Barton for Bad mouthing me to Barry Donnelly.I'll stamp all my junk engines like that and add a few more thousands to the cost.


Well, you could talk to MP and see if they would let you start/provide the 540, 572, 588, 605 and or 638 versions. It could happen!


Nah,Michael,I'll stick to my real job in the heavy construction industry.You guys and Ray won't have to worry about me. Besides I couldn't compete with real engine builders.Thanks for the suggestion,but I'am planning on retiring soon.I make my real money in the constuction industry,that's how I can afford to play and have the shop.

Re: Barton building the crate Hemis? [Re: B G Racing] #48830
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Thanks,now I can return the favor to Ray Barton for Bad mouthing me to Barry Donnelly.I'll stamp all my junk engines like that and add a few more thousands to the cost.


Well, you could talk to MP and see if they would let you start/provide the 540, 572, 588, 605 and or 638 versions. It could happen!


Nah,Michael,I'll stick to my real job in the heavy construction industry.You guys and Ray won't have to worry about me. Besides I couldn't compete with real engine builders.Thanks for the suggestion,but I'am planning on retiring soon.I make my real money in the constuction industry,that's how I can afford to play and have the shop.




Ya but if you start building for mopar you can give all us moparts members a nice discount. I thinking of a 540 all aluminum crate motor for 6000 grand or you can sell it to me for 5000 grand and i will let you stamp your name on my fenders and hood.

Re: Barton building the crate Hemis? [Re: B G Racing] #48831
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Thanks for the suggestion,but I'am planning on retiring soon.



Not a race related video...

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Re: Barton building the crate Hemis? [Re: bwdst6] #48832
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Now that's some sick sheitz

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Re: Barton building the crate Hemis? [Re: VanishPt] #48833
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The cam has definitely been changed, but nobody's talking specs other than the catalog information. Hopefully the 2009 catalog will be updated w/the correct info. On the other hand, between now and then there should be enough time for Barton to try another cam and report back to MP....if MP likes it, it could possibly change many times over without much notice to anyone.


Re: Barton building the crate Hemis? [Re: ZIPPY] #48834
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Maybe someone in the parts business could call barton ( 610 693 5700) and ask. They would not tell me when i asked about 2 months ago.

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Re: Barton building the crate Hemis? [Re: patrick] #48835
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maybe mike at muscle motors?


i bet it's that karl guy at titan shiny engine.


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