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Re: 727 front drum
[Re: atoetly]
#482203
09/28/09 08:31 AM
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I have the A&A billet steel drum in mine. I went with the steel drum b/c it's a street car and wanted max durability.  CHIP
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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: 727 front drum
[Re: DJVCuda]
#482205
09/28/09 08:44 AM
09/28/09 08:44 AM
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BROOK PARK, OH
WILD BILL
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I bought a billet steel drum from CRT when the factory drum couldn't keep the snap ring in place after the T brake install.
John is a great guy to deal with 
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Re: 727 front drum
[Re: Crizila]
#482207
09/28/09 09:50 AM
09/28/09 09:50 AM
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NW Pa.
KD800X
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this is about 50 runs on an aluminum drum
use a billet steel one from CRT , of you plan on driving it on the street... - John is a great guy to deal with.
 After smoking my original 3 disc clutch pack, CRT set me up with a steel drum and 4 disc pack. Works good.
Our A&A Aluminum drum is over 2 years old and the fluid never looked like that.
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Re: 727 front drum
[Re: MOPARCHAS]
#482208
09/28/09 10:40 AM
09/28/09 10:40 AM
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440Jim
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what do you guys use for a front drum in a 727
racing only and why and from who
Since your application is race only, you get to pick between aluminum and steel to get rid of the cast factory drum.
I have been running an aluminum drum from TCS with a smooth (no slots) red band for about 4 years and 600+ passes. I am very happy. I don't overheat the fluid or slip the clutches so my fluid holds up well and I change fluid and filter every 40 passes. The drum still looked good (minor wear) on the band surface during last winter's refresh. Another nice feature of the TCS drum is the replacable bronze sleeve that the rings ride on. More durable than aluminum and replaceable.
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Re: 727 front drum
[Re: KD800X]
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09/28/09 12:30 PM
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Atco NJ
DJVCuda
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this is about 50 runs on an aluminum drum
use a billet steel one from CRT , of you plan on driving it on the street... - John is a great guy to deal with.
After smoking my original 3 disc clutch pack, CRT set me up with a steel drum and 4 disc pack. Works good.
Our A&A Aluminum drum is over 2 years old and the fluid never looked like that.
2 years - but how many runs?
I am not knocking the aluminum drum, to say the least, that was the A&A drum and it needs to be cut every so often due to wear, and if you do any type of street driving the billet steel is the way to go.
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Re: 727 front drum
[Re: DJVCuda]
#482211
09/28/09 12:34 PM
09/28/09 12:34 PM
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Voluster
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use a billet steel one from CRT , of you plan on driving it on the street... - John is a great guy to deal with.
I did the same thing after running a stock one for 14 years
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Re: 727 front drum
[Re: WILD BILL]
#482212
09/28/09 01:13 PM
09/28/09 01:13 PM
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organ
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billet steel here. because it rules. from crt. because john rules.
for what is the good life if not doing things thoughtfully?
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Re: 727 front drum
[Re: atoetly]
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09/28/09 01:19 PM
09/28/09 01:19 PM
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Ontario, Canada
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I use a billet steel unit for safety reasons. I've had a billet aluminum one but they are a pain in the butt in terms of oil contamination and they don't last. And don't believe the hype that an aluminum unit will make you go faster either.
Mine did not wear much but it is a giant pain using a steel billet one now if there was a performace difference it did not show up same times this spring?? No other changes!
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Re: 727 front drum
[Re: DJVCuda]
#482214
09/28/09 01:19 PM
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NW Pa.
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this is about 50 runs on an aluminum drum
use a billet steel one from CRT , of you plan on driving it on the street... - John is a great guy to deal with.
After smoking my original 3 disc clutch pack, CRT set me up with a steel drum and 4 disc pack. Works good.
Our A&A Aluminum drum is over 2 years old and the fluid never looked like that.
2 years - but how many runs?
I am not knocking the aluminum drum, to say the least, that was the A&A drum and it needs to be cut every so often due to wear, and if you do any type of street driving the billet steel is the way to go.
We have about 90 passes on the drum. We changed the fluid once last year and started with fresh fluid this year. We were running Mobil 1 fluid and switched to Castrol Synthetic this year, and so far our fluid dosn't look like that... YET!  We are also running the A&A red bands in lue of the Kevlar. The Kevlar bands are too agressive and wear the drum quicker.
All I'm saying is we are happy with our aluminum drum so far. The steel drum is a good choice also, no doubt.
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Re: 727 front drum
[Re: JohnRR]
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09/28/09 05:13 PM
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Mt.Vernon ,Ohio
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both the TCS and the A+A have their pros and cons , I've had both ,Ii like the TCS because you can fit 5 thick clutches in it because the snap ring groove is higher BUT they put the vent valve in the WRONG place and kolene steels won't fit because the grooves for the steels are a little narrow , I have an EARLY TCS drum.
The A+A has the proper vent placement but is a copyu of the stock 4 clutch drum , the plus is it will spin to a higher RPM over the TCS drum and not distort , the drum distorts and it's junk.
But the A+A is a couple hundred more than the TCS .
That great info..I am going to buy one here soon.
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Re: 727 front drum
[Re: VernMotor]
#482219
09/28/09 06:40 PM
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Melbourne , Australia
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If you buy anyone's Aluminium Drum, make sure you run a Red lined band. The Kevlar bands are too aggressive and will wear the drum out quickly.
AL....
Alan Jones
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