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Need killer 904 #481695 09/27/09 05:22 PM 09/27/09 05:22 PM
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 636 Central,Ohio FASTFISH420 OP mopar
FASTFISH420 OP mopar Joined: May 2007 Posts: 636 Central,Ohio	Hey all you 904 guru's..What kind of parts will I need to build a 904 to stay together behind my car?? We are talking to be able to handle 1000hp,9000rpm shifts,3050 pounds..I looked on TCS web site and they dont have awhole bunch of parts for the 904..I see AandA sells one for 6500 bucks..For that kind of money I would just call Joel on Joy in Michigan and buy a pro-flite from him using Pro-trans parts.. I am thinking about building one for a test session..I have a good valvebody and changing the conveter would not be a problem..I would like to have straight cut gearing,but AandA does not show them???Would like to have a 2.28 first gear..the 2.45 would cause my car to flip over backwards. Dont want to go with a 2-speed..not as fun..would love to have a liberty.. Any 904 guys want to loan me a trans My 727 is For Sale in the race section..if anybody is interested. Last edited by FASTFISH420; 09/27/09 05:51 PM. 1969 Barracuda 8 second all/motor small block 2014 Shelby GT500 Mustang Uratchko Racing Engines www.URE-RACING.com

Re: Need killer 904 [Re: FASTFISH420] #481696 09/27/09 05:52 PM 09/27/09 05:52 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,139 West Tennessee R rbstroker super stock
rbstroker super stock R Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,139 West Tennessee	Same question about a 904 trans that will live, but for only 350 HP, less than 3000# total, max of 6000 RPM shifts. I may be slow, but I want to do it consistently and without too much breakage. This is the land of the free because of the brave

Re: Need killer 904 [Re: FASTFISH420] #481697 09/27/09 05:57 PM 09/27/09 05:57 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,608 Rudolph, Ohio moparguy7074 top fuel
moparguy7074 top fuel Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,608 Rudolph, Ohio	Quote: Hey all you 904 guru's..What kind of parts will I need to build a 904 to stay together behind my car?? We are talking to be able to handle 1000hp,9000rpm shifts,3050 pounds..I looked on TCS web site and they dont have awhole bunch of parts for the 904..I see AandA sells one for 6500 bucks..For that kind of money I would just call Joel on Joy in Michigan and buy a pro-flite from him using Pro-trans parts.. I am thinking about building one for a test session..I have a good valvebody and changing the conveter would not be a problem..I would like to have straight cut gearing,but AandA does not show them???Would like to have a 2.28 first gear..the 2.45 would cause my car to flip over backwards. Dont want to go with a 2-speed..not as fun..would love to have a liberty.. Any 904 guys want to loan me a trans My 727 is For Sale in the race section..if anybody is interested. Whatcha doing, switching to a certain nascar engine?

Re: Need killer 904 [Re: moparguy7074] #481698 09/27/09 06:21 PM 09/27/09 06:21 PM
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 636 Central,Ohio FASTFISH420 OP mopar
FASTFISH420 OP mopar Joined: May 2007 Posts: 636 Central,Ohio	Quote: Quote: Hey all you 904 guru's..What kind of parts will I need to build a 904 to stay together behind my car?? We are talking to be able to handle 1000hp,9000rpm shifts,3050 pounds..I looked on TCS web site and they dont have awhole bunch of parts for the 904..I see AandA sells one for 6500 bucks..For that kind of money I would just call Joel on Joy in Michigan and buy a pro-flite from him using Pro-trans parts.. I am thinking about building one for a test session..I have a good valvebody and changing the conveter would not be a problem..I would like to have straight cut gearing,but AandA does not show them???Would like to have a 2.28 first gear..the 2.45 would cause my car to flip over backwards. Dont want to go with a 2-speed..not as fun..would love to have a liberty.. Any 904 guys want to loan me a trans My 727 is For Sale in the race section..if anybody is interested. Whatcha doing, switching to a certain nascar engine? Nascar engine???talking about my 416 inch W8 engine.. 1969 Barracuda 8 second all/motor small block 2014 Shelby GT500 Mustang Uratchko Racing Engines www.URE-RACING.com

Re: Need killer 904 [Re: FASTFISH420] #481699 09/27/09 06:26 PM 09/27/09 06:26 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,190 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,190 Bend,OR USA	Call Dave Smith at Pro Trans 661-940-7400, 9:00 A.M. to 5:30 PM PDT Mon-to fridays usually, for the best 904 parts availble Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Need killer 904 [Re: Cab_Burge] #481700 09/27/09 06:32 PM 09/27/09 06:32 PM
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 636 Central,Ohio FASTFISH420 OP mopar
FASTFISH420 OP mopar Joined: May 2007 Posts: 636 Central,Ohio	Talked with Dave many times...just dont want to spend the $$$ for a SS/AH trans right now..but I am probably going to have to breakdown and do that just thing 1969 Barracuda 8 second all/motor small block 2014 Shelby GT500 Mustang Uratchko Racing Engines www.URE-RACING.com

Re: Need killer 904 [Re: FASTFISH420] #481701 09/27/09 06:37 PM 09/27/09 06:37 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,190 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,190 Bend,OR USA	Dave makes and sells a lot of parts, not just complete transmissions He is glad to sell just parts as well as complete trans and converters packages Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Need killer 904 [Re: Cab_Burge] #481702 09/27/09 07:25 PM 09/27/09 07:25 PM
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 636 Central,Ohio FASTFISH420 OP mopar
FASTFISH420 OP mopar Joined: May 2007 Posts: 636 Central,Ohio	Last time I talked with Dave he would not sell any of his pro-flite parts..but that was awhile ago..maybe things have changed? 1969 Barracuda 8 second all/motor small block 2014 Shelby GT500 Mustang Uratchko Racing Engines www.URE-RACING.com

Re: Need killer 904 [Re: FASTFISH420] #481703 09/27/09 07:40 PM 09/27/09 07:40 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ DJVCuda I Live Here
DJVCuda I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ	I'd give John Cope a call if you want another opinion - CRT will always discuss your plans without trying to oversell you products...

Re: Need killer 904 [Re: DJVCuda] #481704 09/27/09 08:04 PM 09/27/09 08:04 PM
Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 311 New England T Tech Instructor enthusiast
Tech Instructor enthusiast T Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 311 New England	I Would contact Rick Allison at A&A trans in Indiana.

Re: Need killer 904 [Re: Tech Instructor] #481705 09/27/09 08:12 PM 09/27/09 08:12 PM
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 186 Kansas, USA V Venomvpr900 member
Venomvpr900 member V Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 186 Kansas, USA	Quote: I Would contact Rick Allison at A&A trans in Indiana. Rick is the man 1987 D-100 SWB, 390hp/360ci Mopar Performance Crate, Built 998 trans, 9.25 axle with sure-grip and 3.92's - 3960#'s with driver 13.83 @ 96.36 1.98 60 ft 2003 Dodge Ram 2500 HD 5.7ltr HEMI!!!

Re: Need killer 904 [Re: Venomvpr900] #481706 09/27/09 08:18 PM 09/27/09 08:18 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 705 Michigan H Hemiroid super stock
Hemiroid super stock H Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 705 Michigan	I know Joel built the trans in Chuck @ Best Machine's 65 Coronet and it lived there. His car was right at weight (3350) and he makes/made about 1070 hp.

Re: Need killer 904 [Re: FASTFISH420] #481707 09/27/09 08:20 PM 09/27/09 08:20 PM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,595 On the south side of Nowhere S S/ST 3040 master
S/ST 3040 master S Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,595 On the south side of Nowhere	Quote: Last time I talked with Dave he would not sell any of his pro-flite parts..but that was awhile ago..maybe things have changed? I heard he was currently 8 months out on complete Pro-flites.

Re: Need killer 904 [Re: Hemiroid] #481708 09/27/09 08:23 PM 09/27/09 08:23 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 951 Temperance, MI P prochargedhemi super stock
prochargedhemi super stock P Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 951 Temperance, MI	Quote: I know Joel built the trans in Chuck @ Best Machine's 65 Coronet and it lived there. His car was right at weight (3350) and he makes/made about 1070 hp. Joel or dave would be my first two picks. i do know that both are VERY BUSY right now though

Re: Need killer 904 [Re: prochargedhemi] #481709 09/27/09 08:48 PM 09/27/09 08:48 PM
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 636 Central,Ohio FASTFISH420 OP mopar
FASTFISH420 OP mopar Joined: May 2007 Posts: 636 Central,Ohio	I know both are always very busy..I am pretty sure Chucks car is a 727 with a 2.28 straight cut deal...it is not a 904 internal 727.. If I had almost 600 cubic inches like Chuck and most of them boys at Milan.. I wouldn't be worried about a lightweight trans..The one I have would work great.. 1969 Barracuda 8 second all/motor small block 2014 Shelby GT500 Mustang Uratchko Racing Engines www.URE-RACING.com

Re: Need killer 904 [Re: FASTFISH420] #481710 09/27/09 08:52 PM 09/27/09 08:52 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 705 Michigan H Hemiroid super stock
Hemiroid super stock H Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 705 Michigan	Quote: I know both are always very busy..I am pretty sure Chucks car is a 727 with a 2.28 straight cut deal...it is not a 904 internal 727.. If I had almost 600 cubic inches like Chuck and most of them boys at Milan.. I wouldn't be worried about a lightweight trans..The one I have would work great.. I know you're right about the 2.28 1st, not sure if it's all light weight or not. The lightweight stuff from Smith lives to a point in SS/AH cars, but they're high maintenance.

Re: Need killer 904 [Re: Hemiroid] #481711 09/27/09 09:03 PM 09/27/09 09:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 990 Vacherie, Louisiana S SuperStocker super gas
SuperStocker super gas S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 990 Vacherie, Louisiana	Would you happen to know anyone that runs comp eliminator or a mopar superstocker? They just might have something in the neighborhood of what your looking for.

Re: Need killer 904 [Re: SuperStocker] #481712 09/27/09 09:18 PM 09/27/09 09:18 PM
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 636 Central,Ohio FASTFISH420 OP mopar
FASTFISH420 OP mopar Joined: May 2007 Posts: 636 Central,Ohio	Most of the Comp guys run the pro-flite with a GM converter and adapter plate..I would want to use my 7-inch converter for a 727 input shaft.You find some Pro-trans 727 hemi trans..but the guts would have to be changed over to a smallblock case and most of the hemi guys run a 2.28 to 2.34 first gear..that is alittle agressive for my combo..I would need somewhere in the range of a 2.14 to 2.18.. I am just going to have to breakdown and buy a trans from Dave and use my valvebody.. I know this 727 I have been running is just robbing power out of my motor...I bet a pro-flite would be a good 2 tenth quicker..plus..running this 727 with the large internals at 9000rpm is alittle scary 1969 Barracuda 8 second all/motor small block 2014 Shelby GT500 Mustang Uratchko Racing Engines www.URE-RACING.com

Re: Need killer 904 [Re: FASTFISH420] #481713 09/27/09 09:40 PM 09/27/09 09:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 990 Vacherie, Louisiana S SuperStocker super gas
SuperStocker super gas S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 990 Vacherie, Louisiana	I would try some of the comp forums just to see what's out there. Someone might just have the gearset your seeking. FWIW, I wouldn't be afraid to try a 2.28 first in your ride...

Re: Need killer 904 [Re: SuperStocker] #481714 09/27/09 09:51 PM 09/27/09 09:51 PM
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 636 Central,Ohio FASTFISH420 OP mopar
FASTFISH420 OP mopar Joined: May 2007 Posts: 636 Central,Ohio	Quote: I would try some of the comp forums just to see what's out there. Someone might just have the gearset your seeking. FWIW, I wouldn't be afraid to try a 2.28 first in your ride... I agree 100% I sure would try the 2.28 904 gearset.. 1969 Barracuda 8 second all/motor small block 2014 Shelby GT500 Mustang Uratchko Racing Engines www.URE-RACING.com

Re: Need killer 904 [Re: FASTFISH420] #481715 09/27/09 10:02 PM 09/27/09 10:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,044 Victoria, Australia Ian super stock
Ian super stock Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,044 Victoria, Australia	try joe at tranzact of indy great bloke great prices 1.37 60 ft [email]6.0@113[/email] [email]9.57@141[/email] 408 glide 3550lbs new video http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Xvq3ZObywQE

Re: Need killer 904 [Re: Ian] #481716 09/28/09 07:45 AM 09/28/09 07:45 AM
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 636 Central,Ohio FASTFISH420 OP mopar
FASTFISH420 OP mopar Joined: May 2007 Posts: 636 Central,Ohio	Quote: try joe at tranzact of indy great bloke great prices Joe builds all my stuff and has been my builder for 10 years..great guy 1969 Barracuda 8 second all/motor small block 2014 Shelby GT500 Mustang Uratchko Racing Engines www.URE-RACING.com

Re: Need killer 904 [Re: FASTFISH420] #481717 09/28/09 08:28 AM 09/28/09 08:28 AM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,026 Trumbull,CT. J jim sciortino top fuel
jim sciortino top fuel J Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,026 Trumbull,CT.	With your power, I think sooner or later, a call to Joel will be required. Sell all your 727 stuff to soften the blow on your pocket.

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