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Re: Regulator a Restriction? [Re: RemCharger] #477389
09/24/09 01:41 PM
09/24/09 01:41 PM
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... I switched to a Mallory regulator after a local shop showed me how much more restrictive the standard Holley regulator's passages were than the Mallory's...


Brad, did you ever see any back to back improvements?



I should have phrased this differently... when I was changing from a 120 gph mechanical pump to an electric pump, I was going to run the "old reliable" Holley blue pump & regulator combination. When I said I "switched", it would have been more accurate to say I decided not to purchase the Holley stuff and went w/ the Mallory 140 Comp pump w/ matching 4207 regulator. Sorry for any confusion.

Re: Regulator a Restriction? [Re: BradH] #477390
09/24/09 01:58 PM
09/24/09 01:58 PM
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Deerfield, Ohio
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I can tell you that my holley (junk by some standards) went 9.80 @136 in my Duster. I listened to everyone say how bad they were and went to a mallory 140 and reg. The car fell on it's face in second gear. This is all new 1/2 inch line and new cell. I switch to the mallory 240 and the car went back to 9.80.... So I'm not sure what to say. I liked the blue pump and reg. and spent a lot of money to run the same ET. I picked up nothing...

Re: Regulator a Restriction? [Re: BBR] #477391
09/24/09 02:03 PM
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I have read where they tested a Holley Blue pump with the matching regulator and the pump would free flow 110 GPH into a bucket without the regulator and then with the regulator installed and set at something like 6PSI it would only flow 70 GPH free flowed into a bucket. So, yes the regulator does use up some of your flow potential.

That is why I started using a return line with a Back pressure regulator installed AFTER the carb, years ago.

The supply line is -8 and loops around on the right and the return is -10 on the left.




Ron is that a BG bypass reg?




Yes, It comes with the Barry Grant 220HR Pump that I am using.

Based on the BG220PS pump this pump includes a separate diaphragm bypass that mounts at the carburetor to return unneeded fuel to the cell allowing the pump to operate at cooler temperatures. Requires a -10 AN feed and return line. Includes BG Lifetime Labor warranty.

170013 BG220HR Hot-Rod Series Electric Fuel Pump

• Continuous Duty - Designed for high hp street-driven vehicles
• Flows over 220 gph
• Includes BG Diaphragm Bypass
• Draws only 8 amps at 13.6 volts
• â?"10 AN inlet and outlets
• Lifetime Labor warranty and Free Flow-testing
• Weighs only 3-1/2 lbs
• Dimensions: 5-1/4" tall, 2-1/2" diameter motor

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Re: Regulator a Restriction? [Re: BBR] #477392
09/24/09 02:33 PM
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I have read where they tested a Holley Blue pump with the matching regulator and the pump would free flow 110 GPH into a bucket without the regulator and then with the regulator installed and set at something like 6PSI it would only flow 70 GPH free flowed into a bucket. So, yes the regulator does use up some of your flow potential.

Gee...and a stock 440 pump will give you 72 at 6 psi. Holley blue pumps are Nitrous enrichment valve pumps at best.

Re: Regulator a Restriction? [Re: cuda66318] #477393
09/24/09 11:17 PM
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Anyone with some real world numbers?

Re: Regulator a Restriction? [Re: marvo451] #477394
09/25/09 07:54 AM
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A real simple test for adaquate and good fuel flow is to take the line off the carb or regulator and place it in a container.If the fuel flows clear and steady your good to go,if it looks full of air bubbles and is sparatic(pulsing) look for issues.

Re: Regulator a Restriction? [Re: marvo451] #477395
09/25/09 11:55 AM
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Keep in mind that a regulator is BY DEFINITION a restriction and that a pump is a NEGATIVE restriction (it increases pressure instead of dropping it). What I'd like to see is some flow data for the various needle/seat assemblies. Really, how much can flow through an 1/8" hole?

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At what point is the Holley regulator that comes with their fuel pump a restriction to the flow to carburetor needle and seats? I have a Mallory Comp 250 fuel pump feeding into one of the Holley regulators.......is there a problem?



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