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Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables.....
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09/25/09 02:35 PM
09/25/09 02:35 PM
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Just to let everyone know I have done more digging. We at line tube have a print for every cable we make that is made off a factory original. If there is a problem with a cable and a customer sends in an original so that we can see the difference we make a print of it and store it on file. We have been doing this for 15 years and this is what we have on file so maybe this can be figured out.
This is cars with the center cable
70-72 Cuda - Front cable overall length 52"
70-72 Cuda - Center cable 90 1/8"
73-74 Cuda - Front cable overall length 52"
73-74 Cuda - Center Cable 85 3/4"
70-72 Challenger - Front cable overall length 52"
70-72 Challenger - Center cable 93 5/8"
73-74 Challenger - Front cable overall length 55"
73-74 Challenger - Center Cable 86"
There seems to be 3" in all the numbers between front and center cables, if the 52" cable does not exist why do i have 3 originals. If you are local you are welcome to stop by and we can dump out the box of originals there are several of each type in the box.
I welcome any knowledge that will help
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Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables.....
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09/25/09 08:21 PM
09/25/09 08:21 PM
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Heres some factory #'s for you.
70 Cuda Frt 2950124
70 Chally Frt 2996056
True 70 E's do not use an intermediate cable.
71 Cuda/Chally Frt to 3/71 3467911
71 Cuda/Chally Frt after 3/71 3575581
72 Cuda Chally frt 3575581
73/4 Cuda Chally Frt 3575588
71/2 Cuda Inter. 3467976
71/2 Chally Inter. 3467977
73/74 Cuda Inter. 3642281
73/74 Chally Inter 3642282
As far as I know ...all the above have different lengths.I have some of them in NOS.
My company has been selling the Chinese cables..they are pretty good.Like most of the stuff from China you have to inspect it before shipping as they don't know a speedo cable from a park cable lol.
"Long Live Mopars"
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Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables.....
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09/26/09 12:08 AM
09/26/09 12:08 AM
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OK, I think we have this issue resolved... BUt there are some things to note here- so follow this carefully...
Here is the deal. The Fine Lines front cable is the same length as the original, which is where everyone is having so much trouble. The Intermediate cable from Fine Lines is about 3/4" too long when compared with an original-no big deal here. Neither set provides the correct part that joins the front cable to the intermediate cable.
Here is a photo showing clearly the the shorter one from Inline Tube compared to the correct length one from Fine Lines.
The correct overall length of the inner cable for the front is 55-1/4", which is what the Fine Lines cable is. The Inline Tube cable only measures 52". here is a pic showing this problem.
For those that are not familiar with the correct front cable-to-intermediate cable connector, which is unique to 71 B,J,R,W, I started reproducing it 4 years ago. Photo below, or check out my website.
Bill Rolik
Hi bill we are well aware of you hardware that you sell on ebay at over 3 times the cost of the inline tube hardware.
Inline tubwe hardware set - factory correct $49
all plated the correct colors and 100% correct.
Bills hardware 3 times the cost - Same qualty 3 time the cost - and he only make the hardware no cables -
Inline tube - makes the cables and the hardware for all A /B / E & even C Body.
Marc,
Just a couple of points I would like to clarify strictly for informational purposes:
The FEW pieces of hardware that I offer were patterned after production line and NOS originals, of which I have many examples, and this was done without any research into what anyone else was offering at the time (almost 5 years ago) I had them made. I did them because I wanted to make them correctly, plain and simple. I also chose to make small quantities, which of course made the unit cost of all of the items much higher, and that is reflected in my retail prices. That is just the way it goes. The second point, regarding one particular item, that being the connectors (2 per car) between the intermediate cable and rear cables (your part number EC0042M), is that the bar stock (i.e. strips) used to make them is available (per my supplier) two ways: Flat sided, as are yours, and semi-round sided, as are ALL used and NOS versions I have ever seen in 35+ years, as well as my reproductions. Compare the item you offer, with the photo below, and you will see the difference. So yes, the overall quality is equal, but the compliance of this particular item, per your website photo, and relative to production line or NOS items, is not. Mine were reproduced with the purist in mind, and that is reflected in what I am SURE are much higher volumes for your product as opposed to mine. As always, the customer will decide what works best for him.
Regards,
Bill Rolik
P.S.
BRE Parking Brake Cable Hardware Packages, per my website:
71 B/E-Body #400 100.00
Adjuster Rod (Phosphate)
Rear Cable Connectors (2) (Clear Zinc)
Intermediate Cable Support Hook (Clear Zinc)
Front-To-Intermediate Cable Connector (Hot Dip Zinc)
Adjuster Rod Lock Nut (Zinc w/ Red Dye)
72-74 E-Body/72 B-Body #401 95.00
Adjuster Rod (Phosphate)
Rear Cable Connectors (2) (Clear Zinc)
Intermediate Cable Support Hook (Clear Zinc)
Front-To-Intermediate Cable Connector (Clear Zinc)
Adjuster Rod Lock Nut (Zinc w/ Red Dye)
73-74 B-Body #402 95.00
Adjuster Rod (Phosphate)
Rear Cable Connectors (2) (Clear Zinc)
Intermediate Cable Support Hook (Clear Zinc)
Front-To-Intermediate Cable Connector (Clear Zinc)
Adjuster Rod Lock Nut (Zinc w/ Red Dye)
72-74 A-Body #403 69.00
Adjuster Rod (Phosphate)
Rear Cable Connectors (2) (Clear Zinc)
Front-To-Intermediate Cable Connector (Clear Zinc)
Adjuster Rod Lock Nut (Zinc w/ Red Dye)
Last edited by bremotorsports; 09/27/09 10:18 AM.
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Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables.....
[Re: bremotorsports]
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09/27/09 08:00 AM
09/27/09 08:00 AM
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As always, the customer will decide what works best for him.
Regards,
Bill Rolik
 AND which business offers the best customer service with the least amount of attitude.
Joe
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Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables.....
[Re: gomangoRTSE]
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09/29/09 11:54 AM
09/29/09 11:54 AM
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Just want everyone to know that I have not abandoned this thread. I was out yesterday and will be gone for the rest of the week. I will get back and address some of the points that have been brought up next week.
If any of ya will be at Carlisle this weekend stop by our booth and say hi. We are located at C62 and I will be there through the weekend.
Marc McGrew
Inline Tube
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Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables.....
#475937
09/30/09 01:22 PM
09/30/09 01:22 PM
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All Inline Tube cables come with the grommet installed on the front cables. If you purchased someone else cable set that did not have the grommet, it can be purchased from Inline Tube for $9.00. This can be installed on an assembled cable by using WD40.
My 70 Cuda Inline front cable did not come with a grommet. What do I have to do to get one?
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Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables.....
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09/30/09 02:12 PM
09/30/09 02:12 PM
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Central Coast, Calif.
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Some say that 70 does not have the intermediate cable, others say it does and looking at orders from the past we have sold 80% of the 1970 cables without intermediate and 20 with - we do not know how to explain this.
From the 70 Plymouth FSM
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Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables.....
[Re: Snoopy]
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10/02/09 02:26 PM
10/02/09 02:26 PM
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HEMICUDA
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Mike,
Can they be installed on an assembled cable assembly?
You bet.
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Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables.....
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10/02/09 10:38 PM
10/02/09 10:38 PM
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Just to let everyone know I have done more digging. We at line tube have a print for every cable we make that is made off a factory original. If there is a problem with a cable and a customer sends in an original so that we can see the difference we make a print of it and store it on file. We have been doing this for 15 years and this is what we have on file so maybe this can be figured out.
This is cars with the center cable
70-72 Cuda - Front cable overall length 52"
70-72 Cuda - Center cable 90 1/8"
73-74 Cuda - Front cable overall length 52"
73-74 Cuda - Center Cable 85 3/4"
70-72 Challenger - Front cable overall length 52"
70-72 Challenger - Center cable 93 5/8"
73-74 Challenger - Front cable overall length 55"
73-74 Challenger - Center Cable 86"
There seems to be 3" in all the numbers between front and center cables, if the 52" cable does not exist why do i have 3 originals. If you are local you are welcome to stop by and we can dump out the box of originals there are several of each type in the box.
I welcome any knowledge that will help
I just measured my 71 e-brake front cable and it is right at 55 inches, so can I order the front cable as a 73-74 challenger for my 71 and be correct ? I like the looks of the Inline cable.
logan426
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