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drag racing: obvious safety gaps
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prior to the 60s, seatbelts and helmets were sometimes missing from motorsports. now, it seems like an obvious safety gap...to even THINK otherwise is insane. we get a chuckle out of seeing leather racing helmets in old photos.
well, after seeing a few drag wrecks, i gotta say there are still some obvious things missing:
1-bigger, softer barricades ... hay bails, water filled drums ... with or without a guard rail. just get rid of those concrete walls! how about 4 rows of water drums on each side of the track, spaced. and space them a few feet apart to give the car more gradual deceleration. and make the drum easy to split open -- water or fire slurry couldn't hurt a car on fire.
2-soft center divider along the entire strip so a crazy car doesn't take out his competitor (especially when the competitor is slightly behind). so it obstructs visibility for the fans -- even a 48" high wall sitting in a 12" deep trough could delay the cross over a second or two. shame on you sanctioning bodies -- if you've left this out for fan visibility, you've been getting away with murder.
3-fluid catch pan/tray under the engine. how many times has something broke loose, spewing lubricant or coolant conveniently ahead of the rear tires. it could help with aerodynamics (smoother airflow under the car) and eliminate costly downtime (ridding the track of fluids).
4-if a car has a parachute and is not reasonably close to the center of his lane, or tire pressure drops way low, or a fire occurs, there should be an electronic auto-deploy of the parachute. i'm sure with today's technology, the signal to deploy could be sent remotely by track equipment. OK, this concept is a bit elaborate, but definitely worthy of some trials.
while you're at it, apply these concepts to other forms of auto racing.
items 1-3 may be present at *some* strips today, but if drag racing is around in 2050, they will be universal, and people will laugh at 2010 safety standards.
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Re: drag racing: obvious safety gaps
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1. "Softer" walls have a tendency to catch a vehicle, and at 150+ mph, you really don't want that.
2. Center divider wall is a great idea for safety, and has been discussed over the years
3. I would think a catch pan would give a false sense of security, and cause a bigger problem at the top end with larger amount of fluids, fire, etc
4. An active secondary remote control,chute deployement control by teams crew chief, is not real complicated nor expensive and not likely to have too many negatives, and has merit IMO
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: drag racing: obvious safety gaps
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The concrete walls are a must.
The problems with the old "softer" systems they used in the past is they would give, act like a spring, and the car would bounce off and be catupulted either across the lanes and into the other barrier, or back into the racing surface.
You want something you can "ride" to a stop without it pushing you into an even worse situation.
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Re: drag racing: obvious safety gaps
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1. "Softer" walls have a tendency to catch a vehicle, you really don't want that.
if you are driving the "other" car that's EXACTLY what you want. your car could be perfect and still be totaled. if you're driving the squirrel car, you want the softest landing possible. maybe the water drums should only be filled 25% to prevent ricochet.
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3. cause a bigger problem at the top end with larger amount of fluids, fire, etc
a pan to catch oil is more dangerous? pls tell me you're just kidding.. i'm not sure a diaper is even enough with all the hoses near, but not on the engine.
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Re: drag racing: obvious safety gaps
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a pan to catch oil is more dangerous? pls tell me you're just kidding.. i'm not sure a diaper is even enough with all the hoses near, but not on the engine.
Just think if you had a fuel line rupture/leak during a run and not know it. The catch pan would fill with fuel and could cause an inferno.
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Re: drag racing: obvious safety gaps
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The concrete walls are a must.
The problems with the old "softer" systems they used in the past is they would give, act like a spring,
You want something you can "ride" to a stop
then keep the cheesey guard rail (or replace w/hay) and put water drums behind them...just get rid of the concrete. what about sawdust or plastic pebbles instead of water. or even put a trough of water on the sides of the track. if i dropped a cat from a 10 story building, i bet you it would bounce more on concrete than a shallow pool of water.
it's possible, but VERY hard to drown in 6" of standing water...
putting a slurry or water trough down the center would not obstruct the fan vision at all. but then, you have to clean the slurry off the track after each crash. with the water, you could blow dry it and get it off much faster than an oil slick.
if you had the option of a water trough down the center, would you take it? (not being theoretical, i'm really asking). if the other guy had a really nasty spill, he could potentially splash water in front of your tires, but on the other hand, maybe the speed is so great that he just ends up washing the side of your car for free.
why did hay bails disappear...they seemed like effective soft systems and they definitely don't promote ricochet? they were in place in the early days of sports car racing. have a few cars/people died because the hay just didn't look "high tech". i hope not.
for the record, I think concrete at the start/burnout box is reasonable.
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Re: drag racing: obvious safety gaps
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75/80's ends in a corn field, that's almost like a hay bail.
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Re: drag racing: obvious safety gaps
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prior to the 60s, seatbelts and helmets were sometimes missing from motorsports. now, it seems like an obvious safety gap...to even THINK otherwise is insane. we get a chuckle out of seeing leather racing helmets in old photos.
well, after seeing a few drag wrecks, i gotta say there are still some obvious things missing:
1-bigger, softer barricades ... hay bails, water filled drums ... with or without a guard rail. just get rid of those concrete walls! how about 4 rows of water drums on each side of the track, spaced. and space them a few feet apart to give the car more gradual deceleration. and make the drum easy to split open -- water or fire slurry couldn't hurt a car on fire.
2-soft center divider along the entire strip so a crazy car doesn't take out his competitor (especially when the competitor is slightly behind). so it obstructs visibility for the fans -- even a 48" high wall sitting in a 12" deep trough could delay the cross over a second or two. shame on you sanctioning bodies -- if you've left this out for fan visibility, you've been getting away with murder.
3-fluid catch pan/tray under the engine. how many times has something broke loose, spewing lubricant or coolant conveniently ahead of the rear tires. it could help with aerodynamics (smoother airflow under the car) and eliminate costly downtime (ridding the track of fluids).
4-if a car has a parachute and is not reasonably close to the center of his lane, or tire pressure drops way low, or a fire occurs, there should be an electronic auto-deploy of the parachute. i'm sure with today's technology, the signal to deploy could be sent remotely by track equipment. OK, this concept is a bit elaborate, but definitely worthy of some trials.
while you're at it, apply these concepts to other forms of auto racing.
items 1-3 may be present at *some* strips today, but if drag racing is around in 2050, they will be universal, and people will laugh at 2010 safety standards.
Have you ever raced anything?
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Re: drag racing: obvious safety gaps
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have an e body pink slip to bet?
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Re: drag racing: obvious safety gaps
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i bet if one track required a tray the safety record would blow all the other tracks away. a lot of ways to prevent sloshing...seal the back/front, require some maxi-pad-like lining in the bottom. remember, a leak generally does not dump 6 qts down all at once.
Which proves a diaper is enough protection for what may happen. Diapers give, and the ones I've seen have a kevlar material for balistic protection... a pan wouldn't. So, what would stop a snapped piston & rod going through a block from going right on through the pan, or a grenading transmission for that matter.
I can see not having a concrete barrier @ the END of a track, but not from the sides. Like some have already said... at those speeds, a "soft" rail could catch the nose of more cars causing them to catapult over the railing 
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Re: drag racing: obvious safety gaps
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1-bigger, softer barricades ...
Hard impacts are rare when you're travelling parallel to the wall.
2-soft center divider along the entire strip so a crazy car doesn't take out his competitor
crossing the center line is common and usually the only casualty is a foam block or two. Two vehicle accidents are very rare.
(-- even a 48" high wall sitting in a 12" deep trough could delay the cross over a second or two.
How are the Jr. Dragsters going to see each other? How would other pipe-rack divers judge the finish line?
3-fluid catch pan/tray under the engine.
Diapers are being phased in, have been for a while.
4-if a car has a parachute and is not reasonably close to the center of his lane, or tire pressure drops way low, or a fire occurs, there should be an electronic auto-deploy of the parachute.
Yeah, I want someone pulling the chute on me when I still have a chance to win, flames or not. You're allowed to use the whole lane, if necessary.
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Re: drag racing: obvious safety gaps
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have an e body pink slip to bet?
I don't see where you've raced anything, in this answer.
Is this a yes or a no?
As for safety gaps, the NHRA rules have evolved over time. They have evolved with the cars and the sport. Are they perfect? Of course not. Neither is any other motor sport.
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Well I am sure I will get flamed for this but I fell they try and push to much safety down my throat now I don't think I could stand any more of it.
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Re: drag racing: obvious safety gaps
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Not offensive, just a lack of reality. Belly pans and diapers exist and are in use. You want one, build it and put it on your car. Auto chute release in use on fuel cars. A center divider with a water trough? I don't know what to say about that, be a little tough to fender race somebody in the lights. Hay bales? What would that look like after someone hit them at 200+? No concrete walls? Have you ever seen a car torn to pieces because it got up on an old fashioned guardrail and started to roll? Do some more research, spend some time at the track and try again.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: drag racing: obvious safety gaps
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Not offensive, just a lack of reality. Belly pans and diapers exist and are in use. You want one, build it and put it on your car. Auto chute release in use on fuel cars. A center divider with a water trough? I don't know what to say about that, be a little tough to fender race somebody in the lights. Hay bales? What would that look like after someone hit them at 200+? No concrete walls? Have you ever seen a car torn to pieces because it got up on an old fashioned guardrail and started to roll? Do some more research, spend some time at the track and try again.
so for the driver in the accident (see link)... what do you think could have been done to make the mechanical failure a minor incident only.
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Re: drag racing: obvious safety gaps
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Not offensive, just a lack of reality. Belly pans and diapers exist and are in use. You want one, build it and put it on your car. Auto chute release in use on fuel cars. A center divider with a water trough? I don't know what to say about that, be a little tough to fender race somebody in the lights. Hay bales? What would that look like after someone hit them at 200+? No concrete walls? Have you ever seen a car torn to pieces because it got up on an old fashioned guardrail and started to roll? Do some more research, spend some time at the track and try again.
so for the driver in the accident (see link)... what do you think could have been done to make the mechanical failure a minor incident only.
Would probably have to see video of the whole thing to make a determination of that. He wasn't on a track with concrete barriers, but rather old style posts and rails. He's on the grass side of the rail, so somehow he went over. Maybe front end, or a tire caught one of the posts and sent him flipping whereas he could have slide along a concrete barrier.
As said, hard to say without seeing the whole thing.
Maybe a diaper (did he have one?) would have kept water/oil off the tires. 
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Re: drag racing: obvious safety gaps
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quote]i drag raced at lacr and once at fontana. my current car is strictly for road racing. i'd love to road race against your rail for it's pink slip can you trailer it 1,100 miles.
I've towed over 100K miles all over the country in the last 19 years. I've raced everything from a low 9 sec drag bike to a 5.49 ET TAD. 1100 miles is nothing.
NHRA has been studying safety for 50+ years, I beleive it's as safe as it can be right now without slowing down the cars. What fun would that be?
I think your ideas are way out there and not realistic.
In 2003 I hit the wall head on at 240 MPH and got out of the car on my own with no injurys, Thank God and the NHRA. Part of the reason I crashed was because of water coming up through the track and dips in the pavement, same day 5 other cars crashed in the same lane including Jason Line in Greg Andersons pro stock car. Been there, done it! It was my choice to go down the track that morning. NHRA closed that track early that year and repaved it.
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Re: drag racing: obvious safety gaps
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And I might add, using water anywhere near the track for safety really doesn't work IMO. Ever seen a 150 mph hydro skip multiple times and then dig into the water when out of control. Not pretty. And hitting water at high speed is a lot like concrete. Additionally it would likely spray the track in the other lane ruining his day. And 6" of water can drown someone. Imagine 6" of water being scooped up at hign speed by an upside down car with its windshield blown out. AT Mororos years ago on the road race course a sport car flipped upside down and slid thru the wet mud off course. The drivers compartment filled up with mud and he died before they could remove the mud and extract him. The safest track likely would be 2 high concrete walls teflon lined only inches wider then the car and totally counterproductive to typical racing Everyone now gets to choose how much safety they desire, or don't race.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: drag racing: obvious safety gaps
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...too much attitude here given the lack of background.
I think my background in this area is well substantiated.
Water will not be used unless contained in a barrel.
Your Studebaker crash: The best way to prevent that crash is to prevent the mechanical failure. From the pictures shown, you can't tell much other than most of the rolling done by the car was on the grass and not the track. You can see the car was not on the guardrail anywhere near where it came to rest.
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Re: drag racing: obvious safety gaps
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prior to the 60s, seatbelts and helmets were sometimes missing from motorsports. now, it seems like an obvious safety gap...to even THINK otherwise is insane. we get a chuckle out of seeing leather racing helmets in old photos.
well, after seeing a few drag wrecks, i gotta say there are still some obvious things missing:
1-bigger, softer barricades ... hay bails burn rapidly , water filled drums hose down the track ... with or without a guard rail. just get rid of those concrete walls!nope keep car pointed down track to deflect blow. how about 4 rows of water drums on each side of the track, spaced. and space them a few feet apart to give the car more gradual deceleration.did someone mention all the issues water will create? and make the drum easy to split open -- water or fire slurry couldn't hurt a car on fire. yea but a simple little outa groove excursion and track is down for hrs drying/cleanup.
2-soft center divider along the entire strip so a crazy car doesn't take out his competitor (especially when the competitor is slightly behind). so it obstructs visibility for the fans -- even a 48" high wall sitting in a 12" deep trough could delay the cross over a second or two. shame on you sanctioning bodies -- if you've left this out for fan visibility, you've been getting away with murder. "what"
3-fluid catch pan/tray under the engine. how many times has something broke loose, spewing lubricant or coolant conveniently ahead of the rear tires. it could help with aerodynamics (smoother airflow under the car) and eliminate costly downtime (ridding the track of fluids).
yea and be a huge source of fuel for a fire
4-if a car has a parachute and is not reasonably close to the center of his lane, or tire pressure drops way low, or a fire occurs, there should be an electronic auto-deploy of the parachute. i'm sure with today's technology, the signal to deploy could be sent remotely by track equipment. OK, this concept is a bit elaborate, but definitely worthy of some trials. until i get the garage door opener code and deploy your shoot mid track in the other lane...oooops.....sorry dude.
while you're at it, apply these concepts to other forms of auto racing.
items 1-3 may be present at *some* strips today, but if drag racing is around in 2050, they will be universal, and people will laugh at 2010 safety standards.
i got something that will fix all of this..just attach said race car to a track or rail like a monotrain...that would be the safest...NOT!
or better yet..lets just race in the vertual cars they trailer in..the ones the KIDDDIES wait all day in line for....that would be safe!!!!
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Re: drag racing: obvious safety gaps
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When I saw this topic I had a few other ideas:
Pro Stock, Comp Eliminator, etc, DO NOT need a guy standing directly in front of the car during the burnout. Let that car get the least bit out of shape and you have a dead man. If you can pilot a 6 second car, you should be able to complete a burnout on your own.
Funny car crews should NEVER be allowed to reach their arms under the rear fenderwells to wipe the tires while that car is pulling up to the line. I don't want to see two guys lose both arms because of a throttle or clutch malfunction.
Downtrack safety crew, EMT, track manager, SOMEBODY should have full control of when next pair of cars go down the track. The starter should have NO authority to send cars down unless the downtrack person has given the "all clear." I have seen several times when a broken car was still on the track with the next pair coming right at them. No excuse for this at ANY level of racing EVER.
Also NHRA national events should allow maybe half the people at the starting line then they have now. Remember Doug Herberts starting line explosion? Scott Weis had one too a couple years ago. No way all those people are needed up there.
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for the studebaker, a simple tray like this is all i had in mind: http://www.divergent.org/mikes.vws/images/R32/skidplate/plate_on_4.JPGif the track merely recommended a tray and the stude turned it down, then yep, his bad luck. BUT i would feel bad if someone turned down a tray and took out the guy in the next lane who put the time/$$ into his racecar. i guess fontana has concrete walls because the sandy desert is not there to "decelerate" you like lacr or willow springs. i read all your comments and you make a good arguments (even mentioning gaps that wouldn't cost anything to change, eg. procedures). Thanks. In retrospect, the thread title is too "authoritative" and I didn't mean it that way.
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Like someone else said, I think they have safety stuff as good as they can right now. I've never raced, so maybe I'm off, but everyone knows that there is a chance they can wreck their car, opponents car, or even die doing this. But people are still going to do it because it's exciting. Just like sky diving, I'm guessing you think people should do that and land in a field of cotton and wear pillows  . But I've never raced on a track, so maybe I'm "off".
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Re: drag racing: obvious safety gaps
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, I'm guessing you think people should do that and land in a field of cotton and wear pillows
of course not, that's absurd. but there is something called a secondary/reserve chute. it's not mandatory so no one is forced to spend the extra $$$, but some people who opted out have obviously died as a result.
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