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426-style Hemi in a 1962 Plymouth Belverdere??? #456254
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Hi guys, a bit of advice appreciated here.

I have seen a couple of '62s with the 392-style hemi's; but I wondered if anyone on here has installed a later 426-style hemi in a Belv?

I am concerned over inner fender clearances, though I appreciate there will be a whole mess of other problems such as headers, torsion bars, steering boxes, engine mounts; etc, etc, etc.

I guess therefore the views from anyone who has attempted this swap would be really valuable.

For the record, I don't really want to use a motor plate, and would prefer to use a modern block with wedge style engine mount lugs cast on, rather than the traditional hemi style bolt on "plates".

Thanks Moparts once again for any help here!!!

Re: 426-style Hemi in a 1962 Plymouth Belverdere??? [Re: 71fliptop] #456255
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Hemitis has a BLOWN 426 style hemi in a 63 so it will fit , BUT you want to use stock wedge style mounts what do you plan to use for EXHAUST off the heads , manifolds or headers ? ?

Re: 426-style Hemi in a 1962 Plymouth Belverdere??? [Re: JohnRR] #456256
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Thanks for the prompt response.

I have got a set of new Hemi headers but I know they will at the least have to be cut and shut. I view them as a bit of a jigsaw puzzle.

I also know that the wedge mounts will cause another problem but as it is a road car I don't want to go the solid motor plate route (been there, done that...)

Re: 426-style Hemi in a 1962 Plymouth Belverdere??? [Re: 71fliptop] #456257
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Headers will have to be custom unless someone makes a 62-65 specific header since the motor is forward on the K than the later cars . you could just put in a 66 up hemi K and go from there ...

Re: 426-style Hemi in a 1962 Plymouth Belverdere??? [Re: JohnRR] #456258
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I believe a Challenger "K" does fit but it requires you to fabricate a new gearbox mount and possibly modify the firewall. I have a '70 "K" so can experiment.

I was planning to go the Schumacher mount adapter route as the car originally had a 318 poly in it (long gone).

The car is rust free and all painted ready to go. The easiset route would be to drop a Wedge in but I have the makings of a Hemi so it would be a shame to waste it

Re: 426-style Hemi in a 1962 Plymouth Belverdere??? [Re: 71fliptop] #456259
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Why not use a B body K ??? The box angle is a little different on the E body otherwise it's in the correct location .

you might want to ask this in the Race forum

Re: 426-style Hemi in a 1962 Plymouth Belverdere??? [Re: 71fliptop] #456260
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Factory option (race only) in that chassis so plenty of parts exist.

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Factory option (race only) in that chassis so plenty of parts exist.




Cool

Please do you have any more details or web links?

Thanks for your help.

Re: 426-style Hemi in a 1962 Plymouth Belverdere??? [Re: 71fliptop] #456262
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Well as a starting point the 1962-1965 B body chassis is basically the same for all four years. I think the '62 year is the most unique but a lot of the hard parts are the same for all four years. The race Hemi was available in '64 and '65 in the B body car so those parts should all retrofit to a 1962.

There are various places who offer reproduction K frames, motor mounts, inverted shock towers, etc. Just dig around a little bit and you should start finding the info. Be prepared for some expensive parts as the race Hemi cars were very low production so there isn't a big market for these parts.

I think there are several '62-'65 Hemi headers on the market. Check the race guys like Hooker, Hedman, Stahl, etc. You just have to dig a little harder than the Summit catalog if you're going to build an early B body car with a Hemi.

Schumacher has conversion motor mounts, TTi has headers, I think Milodon still has an early B body oil pan, etc. It really shouldn't be too hard to get the major parts lined up for the swap.

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Re: 426-style Hemi in a 1962 Plymouth Belverdere??? [Re: AndyF] #456263
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TTI makes the headers....

http://www.ttiexhaust.com/Header-TTIHEMI625/6265HemiHeaders.htm

We just did a 528 in a 65 Belvedere but the Hemi had standard Hemi mounting on the block not Wedge ears.

We had to make mounts since he didn't want the motor plate the wedge had. There were no mounts on the K-frame ( original /6 car ) cause they were torched off years ago so we used some Street Rod type mounts & made our own.

We did have to cut the right shock tower a bit for clearance but thats most likely because the motor has Indy 426-1 heads & the Indy Valvecovers.

TTi wasn't sure their headers would work with the Indy heads but they did, cleared everything fine. 2 1/4" primary's. We did center the engine according to their specs & made the mounts from there.

Butch

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Many thanks for all the information. It seems that there are more parts available since the last time I looked.

Expect more stupid questions in due course....

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A quick update.

A guy I know is now selling a "K" member out of a '65 Belverdere.

I appreciate that the "K" will bolt on OK, but does anyone know if this means the gearbox mount lines up. I can see no reason why it would not.

This may be a better solution than the "E" body "K" member that I already have; and make the motor mount issue easier as well.

Any advice most greatfully recieved, thanks.

Re: 426-style Hemi in a 1962 Plymouth Belverdere??? [Re: 71fliptop] #456266
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That's a good question.In all the K-member swaps i have heard of i never heard anything about the gearbox being a issue.I would like to know also.

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Quote:

A quick update.

A guy I know is now selling a "K" member out of a '65 Belverdere.

I appreciate that the "K" will bolt on OK, but does anyone know if this means the gearbox mount lines up. I can see no reason why it would not.

This may be a better solution than the "E" body "K" member that I already have; and make the motor mount issue easier as well.

Any advice most greatfully recieved, thanks.




the gearbox issue ONLY is a concern , and not a big one from what i have read , is when you put an E BODY K frame in a 70 and earlier B BODY

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Thanks for the info.

Another update - checked the '65 "B" body "K" and the guy has ground the motor mounts off

Back to the drawing board....

From my track time I know the spool-type poly transmission mounts are a far better bet than the earlier style mounts, so maybe using the "E" body "K" frame I have in stock is not such a bad deal after all. I also have a spare "E" body transmission "K" member so that might work out with a bit of fabrication.

I guess the issue is that if I depart from the original "K" it may place the motor in such a position that the headers etc will no longer clear....any views??

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what does the E body K have to do with the SPOOL mount on the trans Xmember ???

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It would be soooooo much easier by using the plate.You could also mount the plate into a rubber type mount if you prefer over the solid.

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