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Re: Dodge Avenger .....front suspension help
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Are you converting it to RWD or something?
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Re: Dodge Avenger .....front suspension help
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is this a tube frame deal? My car has a FE from Alston, they make it for both round tube and square tube. It's an A-arm setup with a pinto style rack.
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Re: Dodge Avenger .....front suspension help
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Thank you, that would be sweet,We know that there has been conversion's done, but don't know were to start, or the most economical way to do it. 
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Re: Dodge Avenger .....front suspension help
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When I built mine in 2002 I use an A arm pinto style ft suspension . This style suspension really makes it easy to work on Plugs ,starter,headers etc. The headers had to be made,but worth in the end. See if i can find some pics for you.
Thinks Jim and Paul... I haven't got the motor out yet to look things over, but its going to be a interesting build. Here is what I'm starting with.I'll wait for some pictures and then I would like to ask you guys some questions.
Thank Walt
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Re: Dodge Avenger .....front suspension help
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ttt for avenger572 and 105630
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Re: Dodge Avenger .....front suspension help
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Re: Dodge Avenger .....front suspension help
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Re: Dodge Avenger .....front suspension help
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Walt, How bought making an Alterkation front end fit, buy your back half kit, and have a chassis shop tie it all together with a certified cage? It may be kinda pricey but may save alot of work and frustration. But I've never done any of this so I'm clueless. 
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Re: Dodge Avenger .....front suspension help
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Walt, we put toghether a daytona years ago with a kit that bolted in, we used dodge carravan struts and brakes. im thinking it was a mopar kit. not sure if one would work for that car.  i can get a little more info from the guy if you want Bondo
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Re: Dodge Avenger .....front suspension help
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I'm will be getting you some pictures real soon ,have been building a new house and work is wide open,but the engine will be pulled soon to be some updating on combination and will be able to get you some pretty detailed pictures then. The pics I had before are lost and I'm sure you will like the new ones soon ,but the car does still have the factory strut tower,the front tube off the cage passes thur the tower and tries into the front clip and the strange strut attaches to the bar up top and uses a viper control arm on the bottom ,which attaches to the bottom part of the bottom rail rails which try in also up front below the top bars but you will be able to see and tell so keep watch in a week or so and I'll make sure to pm you also,may also have the car up for sell soon rolling chassis but it going to be priced in the 30's STILL CHEAPER than you can built these days.SORRY FOR THE DELAY..
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Re: Dodge Avenger .....front suspension help
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that is such a cool slide show Dave,,,the Avenger is looking real sharp...nice chassis
 very nice! Looking good!Looks like your planning on some serious HP for sure. 
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Re: Dodge Avenger .....front suspension help
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wj440 - you want to replace a strut front end with a strut front end? What am I missing about the stock stuff? 
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Re: Dodge Avenger .....front suspension help
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wj440 - you want to replace a strut front end with a strut front end?
What am I missing about the stock stuff?
we're turnin it into a big block (hopefully), back halved, street/strip car. The biggest problem we're having is how to change the front suspension and still use the stock shock tower locations if possible.....just lookin for pictures and ideas from people that know of or have done this kind of thing before so we don't cut out or get rid of anything and regret it later.
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Re: Dodge Avenger .....front suspension help
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wj440 - you want to replace a strut front end with a strut front end?
What am I missing about the stock stuff?
no, wanting to put an aftermarket strut set-up in the place of a stock strut set-up and have somewhere to mount the lower portion of the strut and engine, a big portion of the existing K frame(if that's what you would call it) will have to be cut out to clear the transmission, trying to stuff a V8 in it and make it look as stock as possible,,,looking toward's street/strip. 
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Re: Dodge Avenger .....front suspension help
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Re: Dodge Avenger .....front suspension help
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Man that sounds Nasssssssty!!!
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Re: Dodge Avenger .....front suspension help
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Hey walt, what did you do with the motor and tranny out of that Avenger?? Im looking at buying one with a bad trans. Thanks. Greg
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Re: Dodge Avenger .....front suspension help
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Yea  Is the trans any good? Cant tell from the motor but it looks like you made a wise choice on the rebuild/racecar Cant wait to see it run. Greg
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Re: Dodge Avenger .....front suspension help
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Re: Dodge Avenger .....front suspension help
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Ok guys ,stayed home today to tear the old car down.Got some pictures coming tonight .will post them tonight.I took the drivers side strut out of car to get better pictures with the top piece that is made to bolt the strut into the strut tower.Also took the frame rail pictures and how it is run in the car.Keep up with it tonight ,I have been to busy with other cars to work on my own ,but decided to take a day for me and try to get some things done at the house.
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Re: Dodge Avenger .....front suspension help
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ok guys here are the pictures,let me know if you have any questions.all these parts were made by Ed Quay .I'm going to talk to fab shop tomorrow and see if he can make these pieces .but hope this helps you.if you aren't running a series the easiest thing to do is do a arm setup from one of the chassis shops that sell them,My car has to have a stock firewall and run the type suspenion it came from the factory with.I have two things weighing right now do I sell her rolling and build a new car the way it needs to be or cut this one and put the 25-2 chassis in it.I love the car ,but hate to tear apart now ,but something got to give.
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Re: Dodge Avenger .....front suspension help
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last one for now
thanks Jimmy for the pictures.... but you didn't have to tear the whole car apart.  I have a question on this picture here where the round tubing is connected to the square tube. is the square tuging welded between the floor pans or under the floor pans.I also like the way they ran the tubing for the steering.I want to thank you for all the pictures on here. it gives me some ideas on which way to go. I just want you guys to know that I really appreciate the help and the pictures. When and whenever I get started I will be posting everything here. So if you guys want to talk about AVENGERS posted it here. Walt
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Re: Dodge Avenger .....front suspension help
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Re: Dodge Avenger .....front suspension help
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yea, dad turned me loose with the sawzall again. Alot of 'hands waving in front of my face' that day since I couldn't hear him yelling 'STOP'.
I just want to come over there one day and sit down with a case of cold beers and watch you and your dad at work together on the car 
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Re: Dodge Avenger .....front suspension help
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yea, dad turned me loose with the sawzall again. Alot of 'hands waving in front of my face' that day since I couldn't hear him yelling 'STOP'.
I just want to come over there one day and sit down with a case of cold beers and watch you and your dad at work together on the car
Russ
I join you..we could have lots of fun..we could set there and point and tell them how to do it LOL 
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Re: Dodge Avenger .....front suspension help
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yea, dad turned me loose with the sawzall again. Alot of 'hands waving in front of my face' that day since I couldn't hear him yelling 'STOP'.
I just want to come over there one day and sit down with a case of cold beers and watch you and your dad at work together on the car
Russ
I join you..we could have lots of fun..we could set there and point and tell them how to do it LOL
Usually just a bunch of dad lookin at the car and thnkin in his head....then me askin 'what....what....dad, what are you thinking?'
'How'd you learn how to do that?' he says 'i taught myself'....well how the hell is that supposed to help me? haha
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what it's gonna to be is a street and strip car.I know that there was a post about 4 or 5 months ago on this topic but don't know where it is. going to be asking some information on this build and posting some pictures..... so I hope you guys don't mind helping me on this. all help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks Walt
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Setting it back as far as possiable, then as someone else mentioned (FastMop) it would be more like a back half, with added trans tunnel...... Here is a few pics of my buddy's Conquest (he is also a memebr here) car which should be typical front strut suspension on any tube chassis car 
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