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Re: How many Volts [Re: MR_P_BODY] #443069
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Forget the battery............install an alternator and avoid all bs affiliated w/racing w/out one.


last time i tryed running the alternater i had way to many volts and fried two rpm tacks.whats the best way to hook it up.do i need the alternator regulator or can i run without.




You can run a later model alternator with an internal regulator, I just put a Powermaster on mine.


What part# on the powermaster.I'm doing a search man them things are high dollar.




I run a 85 amp Denso alt with a external regulator
(I use the high out put Mopar regulator) and I use
just a single battery.... I cant remember how many
years its been since I put a charger on it.
Trans brake, water pump, fan, 7al, 2 fuel pumps and
a tail light plus I'm putting a small fan in the car
to circulate some air inside



I like to do away with the volt regulater less to worry about.been looking at the mancini true one wire one $159.

Re: How many Volts [Re: MR_P_BODY] #443070
08/19/09 11:14 PM
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Yea, I took my belt off years ago and thought I got .04 hun. on a pass,But I tried it at Chrysler Classic after running 10.02, wanted a 9 sec pass, went 10.03, no difference. Would depend on how much juice your battery needed at the time

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Re: How many Volts [Re: barracuda man] #443071
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Well I can tell you if the battery doesnt have more than 11.5+ volts it wont matter cause the starter wont work LOL


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Re: How many Volts [Re: Lil Wedge] #443072
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16 vdc

Re: How many Volts [Re: barracuda man] #443073
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Forget the battery............install an alternator and avoid all bs affiliated w/racing w/out one.


last time i tryed running the alternater i had way to many volts and fried two rpm tacks.whats the best way to hook it up.do i need the alternator regulator or can i run without.




You can run a later model alternator with an internal regulator, I just put a Powermaster on mine.


What part# on the powermaster.I'm doing a search man them things are high dollar.





Powermaster 74191, it was $146.95 at Summit. It came with a dyno sheet saying it put out 60+ amps at idle and I think 78+ amps at cruising rpm.

A friend mentioned to me that these alternators can take higher rpms then the types you get in a regular parts store

Re: How many Volts [Re: barracuda man] #443074
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I like to do away with the volt regulater less to worry about.been looking at the mancini true one wire one $159.




Actually you would think it would be that way BUT
if the regulator goes inside the alt its harder to get
the same type alt... if my cheapo external regulator
goes I can still do 2 things... I could full field
the reg or go to the local parts store and get ANY
regulator for ANY car(doesnt even need to be a Mopar)

Re: How many Volts [Re: Bob_Coomer] #443075
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Well I can tell you if the battery doesnt have more than 11.5+ volts it wont matter cause the starter wont work LOL


It's one off the gear reducion starters.It's at 12 volts with the key on.drops to 10 1/2 to 11 with the engine running and all the comp's on.

Re: How many Volts [Re: emarine01] #443076
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16 vdc




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Re: How many Volts [Re: MR_P_BODY] #443077
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A couple of thoughts..
The MSD boxes need voltage to run. Regarding the alternator, a trick we have run on some of our cars is to switch off the alternator's Field lead..

EZ to install a simple toggle switch in series for the Field wire lead, turn it OFF when rippin down the strip. Turn it ON to keep the battery charged. Many people don't realize how much drag the alternator pulls while charging..

Just my $0.015...




I use to do that... made 0 difference



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Re: How many Volts [Re: racerx] #443078
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I've run with no alt.and always run 10.20's,bolt on a east coast alt.10.10's and very consistent.

Re: How many Volts [Re: 72chrgrally] #443079
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16 vdc is a good choice if you need to add weight aft, My 16 volt system is heavy @ 120 lbs - 2 -8 volt in series, We pull 25 to 30 amps out while racing and only charge the night before we race, rarely I see less than 14.5 volts @ the end of the day, engine starts like its on steroids, 8 volt golf cart batteries are cheep 75 to 150 bucks depending on size and make, they make light weight 16 volt single batteries for more bucks if weight is a problem, most 12dc wiring systems will be a little over kill for 16 volts, as volts go up amps go down in the conductor, a little freebee benefit, The lack of a charging system was another plus , less junk up front, no long large gauge wiring and dint have to clean mud from alt winding anymore, it may not be for everyone but if you already have 2 - 12vdcs in the trunk and have to charge in between rounds going up to 2 -8volts is fast and easy, just check any electronics specs for max voltage if you use a lot of stuff , oh and 12dc light bulbs glow brighter @ night and don't last as long

Re: How many Volts [Re: barracuda man] #443080
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last time i tryed running the alternater i had way to many volts and fried two rpm tacks.whats the best way to hook it up.do i need the alternator regulator or can i run without.




I killed a couple of the fragile Autometer tachomenters with voltage spikes. You need to have the field 12v supply tied to the regulator 12v or some other relatively hungry circuit to absorb the power kicked back from the field when you turn it off.

I put a 4700 microfarad capacitor on my system for a more gently shutdown and I think it's good insurance. The value isn't that important, it was just the biggest one I had in my electical geek-box.

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I have tried it both ways and when you go a lot of rounds and they get quicker, anything after the quarters, you don't have time to charge, one time not starting going into a final and you will be convinced.




All you racers pay attention to this wise advice. ET chasers can ignore.


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