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Re: Tooth off on timing chain?........ [Re: racincuda] #440265
08/17/09 10:43 PM
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I crossed 5/7 before. Very easy to do, especially plugging back into the cap. Same pop that you are experiencing and lack of power.

Re: Tooth off on timing chain?........ [Re: Posest] #440266
08/17/09 11:03 PM
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I say slop in the distributor. Run a compression check to see if you didn't bend a valve.


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Re: Tooth off on timing chain?........ #440267
08/18/09 07:11 AM
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just checked, the timing chain (new chain) is dead on. Harmonic balancer is good




I could've sworn I posted this. Just exactly how did you check this?




Yeees, how did you check this? Need more backround, is there something new or is this the old motor you've been running 13s with for years?

Re: Tooth off on timing chain?........ [Re: dustergirl340] #440268
08/18/09 12:09 PM
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Different engine, this is a 360. And my 340 runs 12's now. heh

Swapped in new distributor drive gear, the old one was bad. Everything is fine now. Thanks for the input.

Re: Tooth off on timing chain?........ [Re: dustergirl340] #440269
08/18/09 12:18 PM
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I've seen results like this if the distributor drive gear is off a tooth, it gives all kinds of wonky timing values.


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Re: Tooth off on timing chain?........ [Re: patrick] #440270
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distributor drive gear location doesn't matter so long as the distributor vacuum advance has room to allow movement for proper timing setting...

Hers must have been severely worn, or maybe she fixed another problem inadvertently when she replaced it...

Re: Tooth off on timing chain?........ [Re: CokeBottleKid] #440271
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it was severely worn

Re: Tooth off on timing chain?........ [Re: CokeBottleKid] #440272
08/19/09 08:25 AM
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distributor drive gear location doesn't matter so long as the distributor vacuum advance has room to allow movement for proper timing setting...

Hers must have been severely worn, or maybe she fixed another problem inadvertently when she replaced it...




it does and it doesn't, depending on where you put the plug wires. if the DD gear is off (not pointing to #1 at TDC of #1), but you put the plug wires in the same orientation as usually shown, it will show odd advance numbers, because the rotor isn't synced up with the mark on the balancer. if you orient the plug wires so that at TDC of #1, the #1 plug wire is over the dizzy rotor, things will look OK relative to the timing mark on the balancer.


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2011 Toxic Orange Dodge Charger R/T
2017 Grand Cherokee Overland
2014 Jeep Cherokee Latitude (holy crap, my daughter is driving)
Re: Tooth off on timing chain?........ [Re: patrick] #440273
08/19/09 11:41 AM
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distributor drive gear location doesn't matter so long as the distributor vacuum advance has room to allow movement for proper timing setting...

Hers must have been severely worn, or maybe she fixed another problem inadvertently when she replaced it...




it does and it doesn't, depending on where you put the plug wires. if the DD gear is off (not pointing to #1 at TDC of #1), but you put the plug wires in the same orientation as usually shown, it will show odd advance numbers, because the rotor isn't synced up with the mark on the balancer. if you orient the plug wires so that at TDC of #1, the #1 plug wire is over the dizzy rotor, things will look OK relative to the timing mark on the balancer.




You should be a politician. The "simple" way to say this is, that it "will be out of time" if the wires are in the wrong hole.

The ONLY REASONS that any factory manual specifies a certain way to install a dist. are:

So the assembly line folks can wrench, repeat

So the vac. advance sits OK

So the plug wires "lay" right

So a tuneup mech. sees what he expects to see.

There ARE a few engines that matter. One series are the GM V6's. On some of these engines, the dist. towers are "paired" two towers closer together, then a wide space, so if you get the wires off just one hole, it just won't run right.

When I got my first car, a 57 Chev 265, I didn't know there was a "right" way. I used to just drop the dist in and go.

Re: Tooth off on timing chain?........ #440274
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I'm not a politician, I'm an engineer....


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2011 Toxic Orange Dodge Charger R/T
2017 Grand Cherokee Overland
2014 Jeep Cherokee Latitude (holy crap, my daughter is driving)
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