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Clutch Eye Candy #437707
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I just got my new clutch in and figured all you stick guys would appreciate the unit. I am getting closer to getting the car out. My plan is to atleast make some shake down passes this year.

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Re: Clutch Eye Candy [Re: Greg] #437708
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I hear their clutches are awesome.Expensive but good.Rocky


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If you are looking for a heavy duty steet/race unit they are very competitively priced. I use street very very loosely because most people who run on the street would see this as overkill unless you were serious about not junking parts on a high horsepower street/strip car.

I looked at Advance, Tim Hyatt and McCloud. All of them make some nice clutches. My engine builder has used McCloud forever. Boninfante was not the highest priced supplier out there.

I talked to a lot of guys racing 4 speeds with bigger cars and and the guys who were running Boninfante said they were very happy with the durability of the unit. The guys at Texas Thunder have had a lot of success running the Boninfante unit and Mike Loboda uses one in his pro stock duster. I am not going class racing so every little tenth is not a big concern for me. My deciding factor was durability and adjustibility.

When the president of the company gives you his personal cell phone number and says call me anytime you need anything. That to me tells you about the way he feels about customer service.

Re: Clutch Eye Candy [Re: Greg] #437710
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Yeah my Buddy at Texas Thunder has it in the 65 Coronet.He launches with what 14 inch slicks.Rocky


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Re: Clutch Eye Candy [Re: therocks] #437711
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That is soo cool......I don't even know what I'm looking at!

I guess its an adjustible multi disc unit.

What kind of Discs?
What kind of HP is it going behind
What kind of Trans?

I guess this clutch is designed to "slip" at launch.

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Horsepower - 690-710
6 lever 10' single disk clutch
Jerico Transmission
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Lakewood Bellhousing
Brewer's Performance clutch fork and sundry items
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Re: Clutch Eye Candy [Re: Greg] #437713
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If you are looking for a heavy duty steet/race unit they are very competitively priced. I use street very very loosely because most people who run on the street would see this as overkill unless you were serious about not junking parts on a high horsepower street/strip car.





So are you saying that this clutch is somewhat streetable?

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What is the disc material? Is it supposed to slip?

I've got a RST Mcloud dual 9.75ish" disks with organic face. Super streetable and doesn't slip a bit. I will rely on a bit of tire spin to keep from bogging / breaking.

Re: Clutch Eye Candy [Re: Greg] #437715
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Nice unit Greg
Can you upgrade to a dual disc setup with just new stands and a floater when you need to? I didn't think that unit would fit in a standard bell.
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Re: Clutch Eye Candy [Re: fourgearsavoy] #437716
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It is a six finger single disk slipper style clutch. It has a 130 tooth flywheel and will fit into a Lakewood bellhousing. The ad below says it would fit into a stock style housing. Personally if you are making that much horsepower I would want an SFI approved bellhousing anyway. It can be expanded to a dual disk clutch. $1950.00 out the door and into your car. Here is an ad for the clutch. Sorry it is in chevy Max online magazine.
Boninfante Clutch Ad

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Re: Clutch Eye Candy [Re: Greg] #437717
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I just thought you might have to get a Browell or Trick Titainium to fit that size hat inside.Did you see the new proposed window design that Tim Hyatt submitted to Lakewood? It is posted over on www.umtrnorth.com in the tech section.It will make adjustments and weight changes alot easier
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I saw Tim Hyatt's thread on the bellhousing window. It is really needed and the bellhousing still would be safe.

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Yeah when you look at the size of the hole where the fork comes through why cant you put a safer one somewhere else
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Re: Clutch Eye Candy [Re: fourgearsavoy] #437720
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Greg, you're gonna love that Boninfante unit.
He makes a great product and you'll NEVER break it- believe me, I've tried !

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Thats sweet Greg

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Dave in Texas is runnign that with a Jerico behind a 572,He has never had a clutch problem.Rocky


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Re: Clutch Eye Candy [Re: therocks] #437724
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Ok, without going into great detail, why would you spend that kind of money for a clutch set up for a street car? a good performance clutch would last for years. Besides no one can see the bling anyways.



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Ok, without going into great detail, why would you spend that kind of money for a clutch set up for a street car? a good performance clutch would last for years. Besides no one can see the bling anyways.





It's the perfect clutch for street/strip big HP cars because you can tighten it up for the street and back the pressure down at the track On the street traction is limited and tire spin is the "slip factor" when on the track traction is good so you need to put the slip in the driveline so you back off your adjustment a few thousand pounds.
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Re: Clutch Eye Candy [Re: LAR_414] #437726
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What is the disc material? Is it supposed to slip?

I've got a RST Mcloud dual 9.75ish" disks with organic face. Super streetable and doesn't slip a bit. I will rely on a bit of tire spin to keep from bogging / breaking.



i'm thinking about trying the rst clutch. can you use any flywheel,or do you need a special one? what do you use?


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I would not spend that kind of money for a pure street car. My car will be a licensed street legal car but it will be 99% track use. I am hoping it will be running the 10.00 or 10.50 class in nostalgia super stock and max wedge. A new McCloud unit is around $1850 and Advance clutch is $2,000+ when I got quotes.

Re: Clutch Eye Candy [Re: therocks] #437728
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I hear their clutches are awesome.Expensive but good.Rocky




I hope you don't mind me jumping in here.
Bonnfante has rebuilt this clutch twice and they are some good guys. Seeing your cool clutch is like seeing artwork, I know how you feel. Does it use weights? Clutches are alot of work.

When I would get stuff like that it would sit around my office or inside the house for a few days so I could fully appreciate it.

I think they copied the Crower unit with some improvements I bet. My first Crower was a small stand clutch and it is still used today by alot of guys. But in the effort to stay current we upgraded to this big stand clutch which is supposed to be more stable with less deflection.It's on the back of my blown alky BAE hemi. It's been 5.49 et. Your'e looking at alot of titaniun,donut,stands and some hardware.

Tool to the right with the dial indicator is what we use to insure that we ground the floaters and disc parralle and flat.

When I started racing TAD in 95 with a Wipple blower and 50PSI of boost we could get 2 runs maybe even 3 before we had to take the clutch out and either resurface the disc and floaters or at swap. Now with 60+# of boost with the PSI it needs to come out every run, which is a lot work.

Got cooling racks for the disc and floaters when we take em out of the car and to keep them in order.If you find a "good combo" you want to keep those disc together and reuse em as much as possible. We could maybe get 4-5 runs per disc if we didn't slip the clutch too much. But on a hot slippy track you can fry disc and floaters in 1 run sometimes and they won't clean up. The floater can get hard spots in it too which sometimes makes resufacing difficult.Dics cost about $75 bucks each in quanity and the steel floaters are close to 100 bucks.

Had to invest the tooling and equipment to properly maintain it. We take enough clutch parts to make at least the max runs for the weekend and resuface everything at the shop after the race, more work. I lived,eat and slept clutches for a while there. I'm taking a break from racing but still own the car and equipment to race, we;ll see.


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My RST clutch is a beautiful STREET clutch. It has the absolute lightest pedal pressure and a great engagement / disengagement. You can't ask for any better.

I've been hammering it a ton (closed highway stuff - no danger to anybody else) and it's simply awsome at WOT. Can't wait to try it at the track soon.

I highly recomend it. Stock flywheel! About $700 for the clutch setup. I'd buy this over a $400 centerforce Dual friction anyday. I can say this with 100% accuracy, as my dad runs the CF unit and has for years. It works great, but my clutch is truely the best of both worlds at my power level.

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