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Stock 5.9 Magnum with Air-Gap manifold & 650 carb HP? #437392
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If you have a good running 5.9 Magnum and replace the beer keg with an Air-Gap intake manifold and Eddy 650 carb what horsepower would you get? I think that the OEM rating was 245 hp with the TBI.

Re: Stock 5.9 Magnum with Air-Gap manifold & 650 carb HP? [Re: VITC_GTX] #437393
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I doubt that you would get more then 245.... The Cam isn't very much on the engine as it is. Intake, Headers and Cam then it will be working much better...


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Re: Stock 5.9 Magnum with Air-Gap manifold & 650 carb HP? [Re: VITC_GTX] #437394
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I'd bet you'll pick up 40HP. Add headers and you should see 300HP.

Re: Stock 5.9 Magnum with Air-Gap manifold & 650 carb HP? [Re: VITC_GTX] #437395
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Quote:

If you have a good running 5.9 Magnum and replace the beer keg with an Air-Gap intake manifold and Eddy 650 carb what horsepower would you get? I think that the OEM rating was 245 hp with the TBI.




what you've described, with the exception of a regular 4bbl vs. the air gap is the 300 HP crate motor, which on westech's dyno for a MM article dyno'd at 305HP with 318 manifolds up to 325HP with headers (can't remember if it was hooker long tubes or TTI step)

stock mag 360's were rated 230-250HP net (through full exhaust w/all accessories) stock depending on year and model, the 20hp variation was all exhaust system & air box differences, IIRC the cam never changed from '92-02.


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Re: Stock 5.9 Magnum with Air-Gap manifold & 650 carb HP? [Re: VITC_GTX] #437396
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A very quick run with
1995 Magnum 5.9L specs on
Performance Trends Engine Analyser 3.2b computer program
using mods of

650 carb
dual plane intake manifold 1.72" effective diameter runner with 8 inch runner length flowing

shows 245 SAE hp at 4200 rpm
327 ft-lbs at 3200 rpm
with the stock factory streamlined Magnum manifolds and stock exhaust

286 SAE hp at 4400 rpm
364 ft-lbs at 4000 rpm
with a change to
forty-two inch long 1.625" internal dia primary
4 into 1 tube headers 6 inch long collector
and a 550 cfm rated aftermarket exhaust that gives less than 2 psi backpressure at 5200 rpm WOT

for 'standard dyno room' horsepower numbers
add 2% or more to the above numbers

Kevin at Performance Trends only claims that this engine simulation program comes within 7% of actual engine tests,
but that dyno to dyno variation is about that (or more)

Re: Stock 5.9 Magnum with Air-Gap manifold & 650 carb HP? [Re: 360view] #437397
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Patrick is right. The crate motors rated at 300 hp have made 325(magazine hp) with TTI headers and the M1 dual plane. The truc motor has a slightly bigger cam and if you use the eddy air gap you get a better manifold so I would say you should make 325 real world HP easily. The carb may be just a hair small but not bad.


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Re: Stock 5.9 Magnum with Air-Gap manifold & 650 carb HP? [Re: patrick] #437398
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Thanks for the information. I was thinking of picking up a good running 5.9 and making it a daily driver motor. $600 for a used motor and throw on an intake/carb/headers for 300-325 horse, not too shabby.

Re: Stock 5.9 Magnum with Air-Gap manifold & 650 carb HP? [Re: VITC_GTX] #437399
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I have pretty much the same setup you have listed. Im very happy with how it runs on the street. I planning on make a trip to the track this weekend to see what kind of a number it will run.

Re: Stock 5.9 Magnum with Air-Gap manifold & 650 carb HP? [Re: moparguy1967] #437400
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I have the same setup in my truck except a Holley 600. It will pin you back in your seat and off the line torque for a heavy vehicle is good with this engine.







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