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Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: DemonKyle] #437056
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ok heres a few questions on the topic that i didnt see before.

1. All of this appears to be done with big block abody's and the mods to make it fit seem to be minimal. Based off this, there shouldnt be any clearance issues with a SMALL-block abody?

2. As to the post of the battery dying out due to a high draw even with the denso alt, most of you don't seem to be having an issue with this. However, how many of you run your car on the street which is where these issues seem to take place at?

The reason for the second question is cause this car will see more of the street than it does the strip where as your cars seem to see more of the strip than the street?

Thanks ahead of time you guys




I would like to hear more also Thanks


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1970 Plymouth Duster 360/904 10.60s with J heads
Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: 65signet] #437057
08/24/09 09:44 PM
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I think the street driving will be better to be honest. I run mine on the street some and the battery holds up great. I think it is worse at the track when you only make a pass and then you run the fan/wp while cooling without the engine running.

I say with a good charging system you would be well off. Guess I could be wrong though.

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: RonP] #437058
08/24/09 10:34 PM
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I have a factory alternator , raced all night and i ran all my lights . No problems .


Didnt have to run the fan between rounds because it worked so good while it was running


I realize driving around for a few hours on the street might be different

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: 493_DART] #437059
08/25/09 12:30 AM
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I have a question too.

With the trimming you did, on the shroud, how close are the fans blades to the rad?

thanks alot
codfish

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: codfish] #437060
08/25/09 02:36 AM
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around 1/2 "





Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: gtx69] #437061
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one more I have about 1/4 inch space between fan and pump 80 amp alternator 60 amp at idle


Street driven 69 gtx msd' electric fuel pump cd player battery stays charged

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Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: DemonKyle] #437062
08/27/09 04:17 PM
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1. All of this appears to be done with big block abody's and the mods to make it fit seem to be minimal. Based off this, there shouldnt be any clearance issues with a SMALL-block abody?





We just put one on my Duster a couple days ago. I have a stock 22" 2 core radiator. We trimmed 1/2" off the face of the shroud, after that it slid right into place on the upper and lower tank flanges. We also had to trim off the plastic cover on the back of the fan motor, which seems to be there to make it look prettier. We could have cut off more from the shroud front face. The fan is just shy of an inch from the radiator.

Here my husband welded 1 1/2 angle tabs on the factory mount brackets:








Here is the HHR fan on the radiator, he drilled holes through the fan mounts and angle brackets, then added bolts.


that's not my sexy hand in there.

Couple observations:

1. Our Dart had 3/4" more room than my Duster between the water pump and radiator. Uses the same stock radiator. This fan will fit a small block Dart better.
2. Radiator mount brackets are not all the same. The Dart's radiator sat closer to the core support than the Dusters did.

This fan is a $59 shipped with discount code from Rock Auto off a 2006 Chevy HHR.

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: dustergirl340] #437063
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Thanks for the nice pics and it looks like that fan was made for an a-body.

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: Dartcuda] #437064
08/28/09 09:09 PM
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Here are some HHR fan dimensions I found.

5447510-hhrfan.jpg (413 downloads)
Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: 69MOPE] #437065
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Here are some HHR fan dimensions I found.





i think i mentioned it but, i trimmed mine down to 3.5"

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: dustergirl340] #437066
08/31/09 12:07 AM
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dustergirl, thats probably exactly what I'm looking for. Keep an open eye. Ill probably be sending you a message on here or myspace to find out some more details.

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: DemonKyle] #437067
08/31/09 05:15 PM
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Those are good pics of the install, anybody try this on a early A


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Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: 65signet] #437068
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Because my rad was bigger than the fan/shroud and I had to offset it to the passenger side (to clear the water pump), I used the factory mounting locations on the driver's side, the one hole on the upper pass side and just drilled another hole in the lower pass side (as indicated by the red marks) and used those "push zip ties" for fans, etc.

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Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: TheOtherDodge] #437069
09/14/09 06:42 PM
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Well, to keep this post current, I just ordered the HHR fan from Rock Auto too. AND I'm waiting on some dimension info from Griffin pertaining to one of their "Pro series" rads I saw on Summit.

Reason??

After this pass



Went back to the pits, and noticed coolant running down under the rad support. Loaded it up, and went home.
Made it to the semis too .

Took the fan out today, and saw this. Somehow, the fan decided to bury itself into the rad , opening up 5 or 6 tubes, and making the rest VERY thin. Rad is junk. The Zirgo fan won't be used again either. Don't know why it happened, but when I lay the fan on the workbench, the blades touch the bench before the "shroud". Like the shroud warped or something. IDK .
Probably cheaper to buy another rad than getting this one fixed.

Anyhow, the summit rad is 2.25" think at the core, and 3.5 ish at the tank. Griffin has a 2 row, with 1" tubes which is 2" think at the core. I'm waiting to see how thick the tanks are. If they're thinner than the summit rad, it MAY enable me to fit the rad and fan without trimming the core support .



codfish

ps where's the throwing money smilie

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: codfish] #437070
09/14/09 06:55 PM
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my griffen radiator lasted about 2 years beofre the epoxy the seals the tank to the tubes started leaking. i wont run another griffen radiator because of it. i like the summit radiator were they are welded instead of epoxy.

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: Runner] #437071
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Actually that's another question I asked. I had an epoxied griffin before too, and it leaked just as the warranty expired. i know not all griffins are epoxied.

codfish

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: codfish] #437072
09/14/09 07:36 PM
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I just installed one in my Dart . Man that is close. I have a CSR water pump and an alumimen rad . I had to move it over to the drivers side about 2" to clear the pump. It is about 1/8" from the pump. It does pull alot of air . I did not have a chance to try it on the street.I raced all weekend the car barly went over 185 degrees.


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Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: caper] #437073
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sorry if i missed this somewhere before but where are you getting these from and what price are they running? will they keep one cool on the street? like 170-175? i have a lincoln mark8 fan they pull 5000cfm of air but its to thick does a hhr fan pull air like that? thanks

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: headhunter] #437074
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$55 from www.rockauto.com . Just look up a cooling fan for a 2007 chevy HHR. They supposedly pull 3000 or so cfm. Lots of guys here love them.

Do your self a favour and read this entire thread. Lots of good info shared.

codfish

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: codfish] #437075
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$181.00 with taxes at a GM dealer in Nova Scotia. What a rip off.


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