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Spray on Body Filler? #431193
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I remember seeing it used on a car in some mopar mag anyone try it? How it work,good bad? Brand/Price ect.

Re: Spray on Body Filler? [Re: 340SIX] #431194
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They had a blurb about it on Powerblock TV. To me I think you should straighten the panels before you glob on a cheap fix.


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The stuff I saw in the mag long ago was hekler /slpice {yes I know that not the name but was something close }and a german or some thing company.
The deal was no pin holes and east application of it so spray on a coat or 2 and block
So say ya butt weld a new quater on and spray some on the welds and black then spray some on the whole thing and block.
Looked like a good system
New fiber glass hood with waves sand it spray on some filler and block.
Just looked like if it worked like thay said it would be a great product.
I thought 71TA used some on his TA Hood now that I am thing about it

Re: Spray on Body Filler? [Re: 340SIX] #431196
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Know a panel beater in Oz who has used it a few times...sprayed over the car after the metal work was done for a final block back...the one of them I saw he did came out awesome.

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Know a panel beater in Oz who has used it a few times...sprayed over the car after the metal work was done for a final block back...the one of them I saw he did came out awesome.



What Brand was it?
I thought it was poly based so you could sray on some like you said he used it,then after blocked out spray on a poly based primer like Evercoat slick sand and block again with finer paper.
Just looked like it was a good plan


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No idea in the least what brand it was

It was a couple years ago, and I have a hard enough time remembering what stuff I saw there from May

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It's Ok as long as you remeber where your car is at and where you live.
After that goes you buy a dog and have it post on moparts 24-7-365

Re: Spray on Body Filler? [Re: 340SIX] #431200
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Kevin, I may be wrong, but I think what your refereing too, is basically "skim coating" the car, sometimes still a common practice, even in "high end" shops, covering the car in bondo and blocking it out,....I don't follow, nor recommend that particular practice, if your looking for miracles on botch metalwork, it ain't going to happen, but if your looking for a substrat to build, metal or fiberglass, without laying down 4-5 coat of high build priner, and blocking each,......Evercoat G2 polyester sprayfiller, comes in black,gray, or tan,....I've used it many times in restorations, only spray one heavy somewhat wet coat, do not recoat, you can apply it over steel, but I would recommend an etch primer, like Dupont Variprime after you've finished major bodywork, on either raw steel, or fiberglass, before putting down a coat of G2,....I'd recommend you buy the qt. sizes, easier to mix, once mixed, pot life is about 20 mins, before it hardens, so clean out your gun immediately with acetone, after spraying each qt......if you go the qt. route, it's 1 to 1 mix, 1 qt. to 1 tube of MEK supplied,let the stuff take a set as long as possible, I'd recommend min 3 days, if you can bake the car, even in the sun, block it like you would bondo, nothing finer than 80 grit, keep it fresh, crosshatch cuts, then coat with , I prefere Duponts Y2 Chroma base primer surfacer,......leave any Nason products for the "other" guys,........nice product if applied correctly, I've used it over the epoxy seals, at customers request, and it's fine, but I'm not a fan of the epoxy seal coats, as they are a surface membrane, and not a true etchant that will penetrate the metal, or plastic surface microscopically.....Kev. if you can't find it locally, try Eastwood.com they have it


I like using it, esp for black cars,

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Naa not metal 2 glass hoods I have here I blasted at low pressure and very fine sand.
I did it to remove the flat black spray bomb on one, and Base clear on the other one. Then I blocked them both with 80 grit on a long board.
Wanted to just spray on 1-2 layers and block. Then guide coat and see what else needs done.

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heres one.
After the first pass of blasting
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee87/fast340six/Challenger%20Hoods/hoodta5.jpg
After the second pass
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee87/fast340six/Challenger%20Hoods/hoodta6.jpg
Then I blocked it well.
heres hood#2
I cut the scoops out and added a shelf to use stock scoops.
Then I cut the rear open and glassed in stock cowl vents from a wasted metal hood. It is a 2 piece hood and they are put togther it is heavy glass and uses hindges.
what it looked like on the old car{sorry bad pic}
It does not have a frame like a metal hood under it so lots of room for a tall motor And why I had it
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee87/fast340six/Challenger%20Hoods/CHALLENGERHOOD1.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee87/fast340six/Challenger%20Hoods/hood4.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee87/fast340six/Challenger%20Hoods/hood3.jpg
And closed up the holes from the wide 71 trim that was on it
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee87/fast340six/Challenger%20Hoods/hood2.jpg
That was as far as I got and they both sat a long time but now looking to finish it

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Kevin.......................



You can use the Evercoat G2 on fiberglass, fiberglass is polyester resin,......G2 is polyester gel


In fact the black evercoat G2, sprayed with slightly higher air pressure has an organsol look to it, and th stuff is pretty tuff when cured,....I was thinking of spraying an A12 hood with some, and adding black powdercoat powder to the mix?




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340six...there is a product from Germany that does just what you said. I cannot remember the name either but you are right. It is used to repair pitting in one easy coat rather than applying 4-5 coats of other filler primers that don't lay on very thick in one coat.

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There's a guy in our car club that had a 71 cuda vert done by a shop that used some thick filler primer in the late 80's early 90's. 15 or so years later the hood was paint cracked like crazy. The putty knifed off a 5 gallon bucket full of that stuff.

Maybe materials have changed. Or maybe we'll have to wait 15 years to find out

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Try this http://www.u-pol.com/countries/en/navigate.htm
I used the Reface Polyester.

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There's a guy in our car club that had a 71 cuda vert done by a shop that used some thick filler primer in the late 80's early 90's. 15 or so years later the hood was paint cracked like crazy. The putty knifed off a 5 gallon bucket full of that stuff.

Maybe materials have changed. Or maybe we'll have to wait 15 years to find out








That was proberly the original "featherfill",....I used that once back in the early 80's stuff went on like stucco, and sanded like iron!........horrible!, The Evercoat G2 acts more like a heavy primer/surfacer coat,...I'd only recommend 1 coat, then blockl with 80 grit, and coat with a good quality primer surfacer




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Is the G2 better than slick sand or feather fill? I normaly like ti stick with all poly based products instead of uro and poly
I have a full can gallon or .7 of a gallon some stuff is not a gallon of Z-grip{evercoat} was just look at options saw the spray on stuff in some mag. and look easyer for some applicatons.

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Are you talking about Clausens Z Chrome? It was on the Spike Muscle Car show it sprayed on gold colored. I'm curious if anyone has used it too.

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Is the G2 better than slick sand or feather fill? I normaly like ti stick with all poly based products instead of uro and poly
I have a full can gallon or .7 of a gallon some stuff is not a gallon of Z-grip{evercoat} was just look at options saw the spray on stuff in some mag. and look easyer for some applicatons.








Kevin, The G2 is a reformulation of the original FeatherFill, which was horrible,.....I've done several projects, and a few customers cars using the G2,in the last several years.......haven't had any issuses with compatability,.....but I usually stick with the Dupont line of Chroma based products, primers and BC/CC's,....Evercoat prouducts like their Eurosoft and glazing pastes, have always worked together with no problems in the past on finished work,.....the G2 IMHO has showed itself to be a quality product,........I do a lot of painting on a monthly basis/ as well as body work, either on my projects, or customers,......so I'm using product and seeing their results on a current basis, not a random, or drawn out restoration, or process




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i just got done repairing a fender and part of the door on my cuda and the whole fender was coated in a thick layer of gold filler.the car was copletly painted 12 years ago so what ever they used is holling up great.when i say thick i mean prob,15 thousands or thinner.

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i just got done repairing a fender and part of the door on my cuda and the whole fender was coated in a thick layer of gold filler.the car was copletly painted 12 years ago so what ever they used is holling up great.when i say thick i mean prob,15 thousands or thinner.



I know some shows on TV they do just that and block it out.
The show Boyd had and his buddy Foose and they are realy big $$ cars
To me it is 2 much at least thats what I am saying that "now tonight"
I may feal differant when I am doing the vert
Have to float out all the but welds and patches......

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