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Re: Tell me about installing & using wide-band O2 sensor! [Re: BradH] #429850
08/12/09 01:56 PM
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Any known - or common - issues w/ the FAST system?

How long has it been since the Innovate LM-1 been replaced by the LM-2? Are new LM-1s still available?

Also... my "big dummy" question of the day... where do you route the sensor cable so as to be able to read the display inside the car? Do you have to run it up through a (new?) hole in the floor pan?

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Re: Tell me about installing & using wide-band O2 sensor! [Re: BradH] #429851
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i run my cable along the frame rail and up the firewall under the master cylinder. theres a plug there i made a hole in and route all my cables thru that plugs.

Re: Tell me about installing & using wide-band O2 sensor! [Re: Tig] #429852
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Quote:

I've spoke to a few race guys who run the FAST and Innovate stand alone systems. They run leaded race fuel but change the sensor every season, a couple are blow thru turbo VW guys. The only real difference, I'm told, is the response of the sensor. The units calibrate themselves every time they are switched on as far as I'm aware. Another tip they told me was to mount the sensor at least 12 inches from an open header end as the turbulance can give false readings.
I'll post results as soon as, but I'll have to fab fancy header extensions as the ends are close to the 'box crossmember / mount. I'm also ordering an extra sensor mount and 2 bungs.
Thanx


Tig can u also post pic. of you're install.Thax.

Re: Tell me about installing & using wide-band O2 sensor! [Re: racerx] #429853
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Can the sensors handle some ethanol, like 10-20% they put in the premium pump fuel?

Does fuel type alter the ratio you are aiming for?

Re: Tell me about installing & using wide-band O2 sensor! [Re: convertriple] #429854
08/13/09 03:27 AM
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Can the sensors handle some ethanol, like 10-20% they put in the premium pump fuel?

Does fuel type alter the ratio you are aiming for?





Good question ....

And how about E85 ? ... I have zip experience with it but on some of the posts I hear people running E85 as lean as 12.5 to one and still making good power.

Re: Tell me about installing & using wide-band O2 sensor! [Re: dOrk !] #429855
08/13/09 05:21 AM
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The Haze ran AV-gas for years, seems to take a while for the lead to cause damage.

Wideband sensors are lambda sensors, meaning it reads A/F(stoich)/A/F(actual), so depending on what the display is setup for (typically gasoline) it doesn't matter whether you run pump gas, methanol, or E85 if it's reading 14.7 then that's stoich.

When I get a steady income this will be the one I buy for general tuning.

http://14point7.com/Widebands/JAW_1_041/JAW_1_041.htm

Re: Tell me about installing & using wide-band O2 sensor! [Re: racerx] #429856
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Tig can u also post pic. of you're install.Thax.



I will do, but don't expect anything soon. I've only just placed the order with a buddy and we are waiting on other stuff to be collected before it all gets sent over here. I figure a couple of months max, by which time our season is over so its an off season thing to install. Track results won't be 'till next year


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9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge.
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