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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread Part III [Re: THEYOUNGGUN53] #38834
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coat 3 yesterday....

orange peel. can't wait to buff it out!




coat 4... I had to do this after work today and it got dark as i finished... camera's flash wasnt working so here are the horrible pictures.
Im going to put whole body back together in the next couple days and ill break out the good camera for that.
anyways... i am done painting for a while as i sand the exterior body



oh and not to mention that i havent seen it in sunlight yet! im going to throw some wheels on it and roll it outside to put it back together and get pictures of the real color, not pictures of a color that the flash brightened and the tan garage roof affected.

soooo excited to put it back together and rol it out!! Then again im going to see some spots that i didnt cover well probably. ill probably have to do some touch up.

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread Part III [Re: 1971ford] #38835
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she looks great!! I'd be proud to drive that old truck. Red just happens to be my favorite color


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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread Part III [Re: THEYOUNGGUN53] #38836
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yeah i can't wait to drive it!
i have only driven once, when i drove it around the parking lot when i bought it. that as for about 45 seconds, i wish i drove it more!
also im 15 and i just got my permit so im driving my other truck (71 f250 offroad racer) but i want this one on the road!

According to the previos owner, it hasn't been driven on the streets in 17 years.

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread Part III [Re: 1971ford] #38837
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According to the previos owner, it hasn't been driven on the streets in 17 years.[/image]

If that is the case, make sure you check the brake system out and look for leaks, at the backing plates and rear axle seals.
Don't ask me how I know this. Take a little time to double check everything. Be safe.
BTW at 15 I have 3 grandkids that age...

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread Part III [Re: 69DartGT] #38838
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oh trust me, not one thing on this truck isn't getting rebuilt!
I took the truck down to the bare metal frame, new bushings, bolts all that.
i swapped on a disk brake front end as well, but i still have to completely rebuild the brake system, steering, and the rearend as well as swap out the gears.

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I borrowed this from a buddy of mine.
The only way to get straight lines...





Anyways here is where I'm at on the mustang, I am pretty happy so far.







Re: New Paint job on a budget thread Part III [Re: 1971ford] #38840
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yeah i can't wait to drive it!
i have only driven once, when i drove it around the parking lot when i bought it. that as for about 45 seconds, i wish i drove it more!
also im 15 and i just got my permit so im driving my other truck (71 f250 offroad racer) but i want this one on the road!

According to the previos owner, it hasn't been driven on the streets in 17 years.





cool stuff! I've had my bug since I was twelve, I've rebuilt the motor, redone the brakes, and done an entire back date. It was a 72 and now its a 63!!

I just turned 16 so I'm hoping to get my permit soon


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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread Part III [Re: THEYOUNGGUN53] #38841
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got another pannel done!!! First coat









that quarter pannel was a huge pain in the you know what to get straight. I re-did it at least three times

BUT! now that I'm finnaly getting paint on it I'm happier than anything

not only am I getting great results so far (virtualy no orange peal) but this is honestly fun...and really quite relaxing


I truely beleieve that I'm going to be really happy with this method, thank you 69chargeryeeahh

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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread Part III [Re: THEYOUNGGUN53] #38842
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decided to start playing around with primer









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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread Part III [Re: THEYOUNGGUN53] #38843
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alright, I'm really cooking now! I got the whole right side painted!!











(this was the worst part of the whole thing, other than that its all leveled out to glass!!)




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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread Part III [Re: THEYOUNGGUN53] #38844
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Looks Good!!

Without going through the 3 posts...Has anyone tried to roll the Duplicolor Premixed paint for spray guns? Would they be too thinned out??

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Looks Good!!

Without going through the 3 posts...Has anyone tried to roll the Duplicolor Premixed paint for spray guns? Would they be too thinned out??




You could try it on a test piece, I thin to about what I would use in a spraygun so try it without thinning.
Lets see a picture if you can.

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Hey all, new guy here.

I'm about to paint my car with gloss black Topside
rustoleum. I was wondering has anyone put hardener in there paint before rolling it on? Is hardness a problem?

Myth of Orange Peel! [Re: 69DartGT] #38847
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Hello I have been lurking and looking at the thread and the method for a few years. Thanks for all the contributors that share the info, I now have an 86 MR2 that is covered with 6 coats of Rustoleum Sun Rise Red.



The car looked good. There are still a couple of areas that need more coverage over the darker shade primer color. And I still have to wait a while for the paint to harden before the last wetsanding and polishing step.

I am the first one to admit that I made mistakes and some area looked really bad plus a lot of orange peel of different levels. And this is what I found.

I found that if you have the mixture of paint and thinner close. The paint will have enough time to level out.

The amount of paint on the roller ..... for me seems to have some effect. I think the ideal situation is to have the whole panel drying together after the paint completely saturated. If it does not run, leave it. If there is some unevenness, too much paint from end of roller, go over with a pretty dry roller and just run it slowly over the the area to smooth it out. Again keeping the whole area as one.

The problem is some areas got painted first and is drying faster. I found that if I had to fix a run, to run the roller over, not having enough paint on the surface or roller, the surface will dry to have sever small orange peel.


Now it's funny to look at the runs. There is no orange peel in the run. ?????

Now I think too much paint on the roller/surface does not give more orange peel than not enough paint.



The upper part, I went over with a very wet roller thus smoother. But the part not went over with a wet roller is rougher.

--> laying down too thin a coat can lead to orange peel.
(anytime when the paint is drying too fast)

What is your experience?

Re: Myth of Orange Peel! [Re: SunRiseRedMR2] #38848
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Hmmm... my initial thoughts on seeing that orange peel was... break out the sanding paper and knock that orangy surface back to smooth. Then carry on painting from that point.

It's enough to make you cry... when you take five steps forward and have to take three steps backward. But the price and effort you pay now will reap dividends later when the orange peel is just a distant memory and a glossy shine is looking you in the face.

On my car... everything worked out perfect EXCEPT the trunk lid. I had to keep re-working that dim-damn trunk... over and over.. until I finally got it to a level where it was as respectable as the rest of the car.

But be agressive on that orange peel sanding and reach a smooth starting point from which to start re-applying paint.

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alright, I've run into my first little problem.

I started painting that black reproduction hood, but when I went to wet sand the paint would flake off and gum up.

I think it might be because I put it on a little thick, or I didn't prep the hood good enough.

or it could be because of that flat black paint they use on repro parts is not compatible with rustoleum?


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Re: Myth of Orange Peel! [Re: THEYOUNGGUN53] #38850
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Did you use a grease and wax remover 1st then rough up the service? They may have had a light oil or something on it for storage and shipping.

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I hadn't thought of that?

I did sand it down with 200 then 320 and wiped it really good with mineral spirits.


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Re: Myth of Orange Peel! [Re: THEYOUNGGUN53] #38852
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When I wipe something down I use two rags, one with solvent the other dry, wipe then dry turning the rags often.

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When I wipe something down I use two rags, one with solvent the other dry, wipe then dry turning the rags often.




I agree... it's possible that there are all kinds of foreign matter on that 'primed' hood.

Its the same type of situation as 'brand new' reproduction fiberglass or molded plastic parts. In the molds, they use some kind of liquid to allow the parts to be removed easily from the molds. That coating is like a paint repellant

So you sand down the priming on metal parts, wipe it down with the mineral spirits and wipe dry with a clean cloth.

With the 'brand new' fiberglass parts you use a very fine sanding paper to remove the outer coating and then wipe down with a mineral soaked cloth to break up any surfactants that might still be there.

The 'brand new' injected plastic parts usually just need a wipe down with a mineral soaked cloth - unless of course they have sprayed some kind of 'primer' on to the plastic part. Then you would just lightly sand the surface and then follow up with the dampened mineral spirit cloth to rid any remaining surfactants.

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