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Re: Adhesion??? #38634
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after how many days you suggest to polish the paint to remove the dust pieces?

I'm almost ready with the final coat on the passengerside...




Well... I am confused.... with the sequence you just described above. I would not be 'polishing' to remove dust and then following it up with a 'final coat'.

IF you are planning to add one final coat of paint... I would be only doing a very high grit wetsanding to prepared the surface ( and nail the dust at the same time ).

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nuff said.


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Marq, I'm pretty sure this question has been asked before. I looked through the thred and its litteraly three in the morning and I can't find the answer any where.

if I use the grey rusto primer and roll it on, will I have any problems when I put the canvas white on?????


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Re: Adhesion??? [Re: Marq] #38637
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marq,

after how many days you suggest to polish the paint to remove the dust pieces?

I'm almost ready with the final coat on the passengerside...




Well... I am confused.... with the sequence you just described above. I would not be 'polishing' to remove dust and then following it up with a 'final coat'.

IF you are planning to add one final coat of paint... I would be only doing a very high grit wetsanding to prepared the surface ( and nail the dust at the same time ).

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no, sorry for the confusing..
The car is now ready, all the paint is on the car.
Now there is some dust on the car on the top paint... Not very much, but it's good visible..

So I think polishing is the best way to do I think.
What do you think? and when can I do this?
How long must the paint harden

Re: rusto primer [Re: THEYOUNGGUN53] #38638
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Marq, I'm pretty sure this question has been asked before. I looked through the thred and its litteraly three in the morning and I can't find the answer any where.

if I use the grey rusto primer and roll it on, will I have any problems when I put the canvas white on?????




Ok... whatcha do is this :

Take one can of bight white rustoleum and one can of gray primer. Mix them 50/50. Use that mixture as your primer. What happens is that you can add some color ( the bright white rustoleum ) to lighten the gray primer.

You could say that you are 'priming the primer'...

Ok... once the car is primered, get the primed surface just as smooth and sanded as if you were applying a coat of your canvas white paint mixture. This will give the canvas white a head start by having a uniform light color base on which to build on...

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The car is now ready, all the paint is on the car.
Now there is some dust on the car on the top paint... Not very much, but it's good visible..

So I think polishing is the best way to do I think.
What do you think? and when can I do this?
How long must the paint harden






Ok... in that case go through the washing down with a bucket of lightly soaped water to remove any large dust/bug/dog hair type artifacts.

You can then move on to using a polishing compound to try to work up the shine. It will remove any small dust / marks.

The 'hardening time' is a bit of debate as there isn't exactly one straight answer. Everyones situation will be different due to temperatures, humidity, overall environment where the car was kept, and even variances between how different colors appear to have slightly different 'full curing' times.

At the least... I would want to give the final coat a minimum of 7 clear days of neutral weather. IF it rains for two of those days... well add two more days on to your waiting time.

Charger was able to get excellent results without waiting too long to go to the final polishing stage. Some folks feel that a slightly softer surface is easier to polish. Others have found that if the paint is not fully cured their sand paper clogs up when web sanding.

When in doubt... do a little test area where if it botches up things won't be so noticeable.

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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread Part III [Re: 69DartGT] #38640
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What should I use to thin Rustoleum when I shoot it through a gun?

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread Part III [Re: rabid scott] #38641
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thank you very much marq, I was acctualy just wondering if I was going to have some sort of adhision problem. Like if I was going to get eliphant skinn or cracks. But you also gave me some very good advice as far as the color mixing. I almost forgot how the bottom layer of what ever your painting on tints the acctual paint job


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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread Part III [Re: rabid scott] #38642
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What should I use to thin Rustoleum when I shoot it through a gun?





You can use mineral spirits.. or Rustoleum has their own thinner.

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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread Part III [Re: 69DartGT] #38643
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any one else here agree that the body hammer has to be the single most best simple tool ever invented?


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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread Part III [Re: rabid scott] #38644
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What should I use to thin Rustoleum when I shoot it through a gun?




100% pure mineral spirit ( preferably not the low odor type ).

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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread Part III [Re: THEYOUNGGUN53] #38645
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thank you very much marq, I was acctualy just wondering if I was going to have some sort of adhision problem. Like if I was going to get eliphant skinn or cracks. But you also gave me some very good advice as far as the color mixing. I almost forgot how the bottom layer of what ever your painting on tints the acctual paint job




IF you have prepared the body surface properly... there 'should' be no adhesion problems at all. Just take your time and allow enough time between coats. Since your base primer coat ( even with paint to tint mixed with the primer ) is going to be the foundation for the subsequent layers of 'just paint'.. be sure to really nail your primer coat or coats to the best that you can. Treat it just like a painted coat for wetsanding and surface smoothing prior to actually laying paint down on it. The smoother your primer coat, the better and shinier the subsequent painted coats will go on and look.

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ok,

So first I wash the car with a sponge and little liquid soap in a bucket, then wetsand the car with 2000+ grid paper, and final use some polish stuff.

Right??

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I can answer to that

I've read pretty much all thsoe pages and it seems the general answer is 3-4 weeks after the final coat

That way dust wont come back on it

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Not sure how objecive this is, but I found this comparison of the leading one-part boat paints.

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thats what I live by when painting, your final product is only as good as your prep work.


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Just wanted to show a quick before and after. I used Sunburst Yellow Rustoleum with odorless mineral spirits. It took about 8 coats for full coverage, sanding between every two coats. I didn't use primer, just painted over bare metal and paint.

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Here is the jeep before paint.

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WOW what an improvement!!


hey guys, I was just going over the very first page that started all this. Its rather funny really, the second 69charger posted that pic and said how he did it, the roller idea took off like a mopar funny car dragster.


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Re: RE: New Paint job on a budget thread Part III [Re: Exit1965] #38653
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I haven't been here or caught up on any new methods but sounds to me like you need to use a thinner mixture and lay it on real light. I dont remember seeing any roller marks when painting, or if I did, they went away on their own when rolling over the area after applying the coat (to even things out). Thicker paint will just stay there and not self level, and too much thin paint would probably run.



By the way here's a pic of my Dart on the road..there are a couple scratches on it from working on it, so im thinking of going with another couple light coats of the old Hatteras white.






PLEASE tell me this is canvas white, because if it is, rustoleum had me in mind!!

I remember readin exit1965's posts and last I heard that was the color he used!?


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