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What's wrong with this time slip? 60 foot? #385434
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I got one run in tonight before we got rained out. It's my best time yet but I think it should go faster. Any suggestions? 3800 pound Challenger, 416 sb six pack, 4 speed, 3:91, 26" MT drag radials, through a stock TA exhaust.

60' 1.871
330' 5.236
1/8 8.046
mph 87.33
1000' 10.461
1/4 12.497
mph 110.69


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Re: What's wrong with this time slip? 60 foot? [Re: fig426] #385435
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26" MT drag radials,



Re: What's wrong with this time slip? 60 foot? [Re: fig426] #385436
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it sucks!!

Re: What's wrong with this time slip? 60 foot? [Re: Dodgem] #385437
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it should be at least 1.65 that would have you nipping on the 11's
Your MPH gain from the 1/8 on is ok your 330 is poor so if you were spinning you were probably spinning out past the 60'
Seems you making good power and I assume the stock TA exhaust is knocking you down some more.

Re: What's wrong with this time slip? 60 foot? [Re: Dodgem] #385438
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suspension work is probably in order. 90/10 cal trac front shocks. mono spring but maybe one lighter than cal tracs. Cal trac bars and rancho adjustable rear shocks. less air and heat the crap out of the hides. i don't car what they say hot and sticky is well?? hot and sticky!!!

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Re: What's wrong with this time slip? 60 foot? [Re: Dodgem] #385439
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Re: What's wrong with this time slip? 60 foot? [Re: RussW] #385440
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Yup I used to run 1.60's on just 295/50 15 TA's 10 to 12 lb john force burnout (but staring in the box) little fenesse off the line and made them work.
going to be trickier with a row boat!!??????

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Re: What's wrong with this time slip? 60 foot? [Re: Dodgem] #385441
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suspension work is probably in order. 90/10 cal trac front shocks. mono spring but maybe one lighter than cal tracs. Cal trac bars and rancho adjustable rear shocks. less air and heat the crap out of the hides. i don't car what they say hot and sticky is well?? hot and sticky!!!




90/10s already, adjustable rears also, clamped springs and a pinion snubber. 14 pounds in a 275/50/15 with a John Force burnout.


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Re: What's wrong with this time slip? 60 foot? [Re: fig426] #385442
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was there any trac spray?? who's 90/10's??
Pictures of the launch next time right!!

Re: What's wrong with this time slip? 60 foot? [Re: Dodgem] #385443
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one question did it just spin or hook and bog. Row boats are a trick to get to bite especially if it was a street night!!!

Re: What's wrong with this time slip? 60 foot? [Re: Dodgem] #385444
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clamped fronts and unclamped rears I assume??
what is your pre load at and what are the shocks at
driver should be set to resist separation and pass to resist compression.

Re: What's wrong with this time slip? 60 foot? [Re: Dodgem] #385445
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Don't know if it was sprayed. Calvert fronts. Single adjustable rears. No major spin. Clamped front. It's hard to take pics from the driver's seat.


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Don't know if it was sprayed. Calvert fronts. Single adjustable rears. No major spin. Clamped front. It's hard to take pics from the driver's seat.




Get some video of the launch... you will learn a ton,
most of your problem is in the 60'

Re: What's wrong with this time slip? 60 foot? [Re: Dodgem] #385447
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suspension work is probably in order. 90/10 cal trac front shocks. mono spring but maybe one lighter than cal tracs. Cal trac bars and rancho adjustable rear shocks. less air and heat the crap out of the hides. i don't car what they say hot and sticky is well?? hot and sticky!!!




If caltracs are the answer, then how did everyone run so fast back in the day before caltracs or mono leafs? And how are cars running so fast today without caltracs on multi leafs? Just food for thought.


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suspension work is probably in order. 90/10 cal trac front shocks. mono spring but maybe one lighter than cal tracs. Cal trac bars and rancho adjustable rear shocks. less air and heat the crap out of the hides. i don't car what they say hot and sticky is well?? hot and sticky!!!




If caltracs are the answer, then how did everyone run so fast back in the day before caltracs or mono leafs? And how are cars running so fast today without caltracs on multi leafs? Just food for thought.




thats easy, more power. how do you think the FAST cars run so fast on bias ply street tires? they make it up on the top end.

Re: What's wrong with this time slip? 60 foot? [Re: fig426] #385449
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I got one run in tonight before we got rained out. It's my best time yet but I think it should go faster. Any suggestions? 3800 pound Challenger, 416 sb six pack, 4 speed, 3:91, 26" MT drag radials, through a stock TA exhaust.

60' 1.871
330' 5.236
1/8 8.046
mph 87.33
1000' 10.461
1/4 12.497
mph 110.69


Why do you think it should run faster? What is the engine build and what temp was it that run?

the best run I have so far on my 416 was

60' 1.8315
330 5.215
1/8 8.0163
1/8 mph 88.20
1000' 10.2881
1000' mph 99.67

that was on a real chilly day (in the 60's) ive made changes here and there but havet been back to the track for a few weeks

Re: What's wrong with this time slip? 60 foot? [Re: fig426] #385450
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You may be hooking then bogging then catching again. that would also explain a poor 60 foot.
You may have to launch harder if it is bogging down to get through that. Sticks have a tendency to pull the motor down if they hook?? Torque converters allow a motor to spin up to a more advantages RPM as well as torque multiply.
You need to do a little more testing! LOL!!
What is your cam and what is it degreed at? total timming with vacuum advance unhooked??







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