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Re: Post your best .400 light and car weight with driver [Re: Lil Demon] #383555
07/23/09 01:56 PM
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Probably a stupid question..but..

Once both cars are staged the tree is activated super quick..at what point does it get activated. I get in shallow because i dont want the car to still be moving forward towards getting in deep with my brake button not pushed in, obviously.(0therwise the car wont move)

Do they wait until both cars have "found their spot"?? to activate the tree?

what i am trying to say is that say i want to get deeper than just turning on the bottom bulb, and the other guy is already in the gate, do they wait for my car to stop creeping deeper and then setting the brake and going to the wood before activating the tree




Nope - once all four bulbs are lit etiher Autostart (if on) will activate the tree or the starter will do it manually. If you are deep staging - make sure to write it on your windows and get there in a hurry.

If I am next to you and see that on your window - if we are in Quals or TNT - I will wait for you before I pull all the way in. If we are in elims, I won't wait very long - and you may run across someone who will double-bulb you just to screw with you.

The class I normally run does not allow deep staging.





I am more often than not the one that gets in last, i am kinda slow getting out of the water box, etc.....guess what i will try doing is just "driving in" to what i know is well deeper than i normally stage and see what happens.


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Re: Post your best .400 light and car weight with driver [Re: B3422W5] #383556
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Don, what you just mentioned is exactly how I stage my Dart. If I wanna cut better than a .04 light I simply roll into stage beam heavy and set button, not reall accurate but as long as I do not take out top amber it will trim .03 off my reaction time.

Re: Post your best .400 light and car weight with driver [Re: wheelsup68dart] #383557
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Don, what you just mentioned is exactly how I stage my Dart. If I wanna cut better than a .04 light I simply roll into stage beam heavy and set button, not reall accurate but as long as I do not take out top amber it will trim .03 off my reaction time.




Gonna try it....

I am just so"worried" about the tree activating and being late that i just bump in shallow like i do bracket racing(thereby getting a consistant spot)

But i guess no matter how deep i get driving in is still gonna be deeper and potentially better..will try that at Notwalk and see what happens.

I really would like to leave at a higher rpm, but them ultra wheelstands come into play


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418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, low 10.30’s 1/4
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Re: Post your best .400 light and car weight with driver [Re: B3422W5] #383558
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Chip it up and tie the front end down.

Re: Post your best .400 light and car weight with driver [Re: Hunted Duck] #383559
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Chip it up and tie the front end down.




i have the front end adjusted optimally with what i have to work with. 3 ways all around and leafs. right now its getting 2/3 feet of air every tbrake pass. any more staging rpm and its on the bumper, and once in a while will blow the tires off


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Best so far, low 10.30’s 1/4
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Re: Post your best .400 light and car weight with driver [Re: wheelsup68dart] #383560
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Best ever was high .480's 1 time going in real deep, This is at 3470lbs with driver, Foot brake at 2400rpm (no 2-step) 28" front tires, S/S leafs and full front end travel. Car runs 9.90 to 10.0's everywhere and the avg. 60'is 1.37
How many rounds do you think I can win like that?

Re: Post your best .400 light and car weight with driver [Re: 1Bad440] #383561
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Best ever was high .480's 1 time going in real deep, This is at 3470lbs with driver, Foot brake at 2400rpm (no 2-step) 27" front tires, S/S leafs and full front end travel. Car runs 9.90 to 10.0's everywhere and the avg. 60'is 1.37
How many rounds do you think I can win like that?




i can think of 3 races i have won(two at 131 and one at Stanton), where i was never better than high 40's during those whole races, usually 50-70.

if you can run the number and are 80 you can get lucky sometimes..it also depends on who you draw as well..you go 080 on lonnie you might as well get the tie down straps out and saddle her up

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69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight
418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, low 10.30’s 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.56 at 104.17



Re: Post your best .400 light and car weight with driver [Re: 1Bad440] #383562
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Best ever was high .480's 1 time going in real deep, This is at 3470lbs with driver, Foot brake at 2400rpm (no 2-step) 28" front tires, S/S leafs and full front end travel. Car runs 9.90 to 10.0's everywhere and the avg. 60'is 1.37
How many rounds do you think I can win like that?



Hi Mark......! It has beena while. How are you doing?

Re: Post your best .400 light and car weight with driver [Re: wheelsup68dart] #383563
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Doing ok,
Been off work for 3 1/2 months now. Fleetwood Enterprises went belly up and sold out and is now called Fleetwood RV. I go back Monday but took about a $5.00 hr. pay cut, lost 4 weeks vacation and my health insurance went up. I had almost 23 years of service with them. But i'm happy to still have a job.

Re: Post your best .400 light and car weight with driver [Re: 1Bad440] #383564
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Keep in mind that every track has different rollout too. This whole post comes down to the 10.0 class at the CC events and now it is happening at Monster Mopar. Eddie has stepped up and it putting it up for a vote at the CC race in Norwalk. Lonnie's car has a clear advantage in this class because his car doesn't weigh much but also because he can run smaller tires etc because he has a box. The vast majority of the racers in the 10.0 class are racng in Pro and if you run Pro then your car is set up to try and cut a .500 not a .400 John Cope told me when he started the class that he originally had the idea of people building purpose built cars for this class. It just really hasn't turned out that way and again most of the cars are Pro cars that are running Pro at the same event. Heck Monster Mopar we will be required to run a different class at the same event. Lonnie rarely gets challenged on the tree and if you give up .06 on the tree to a guy that can run under 10 flat and has any stripe driving talent at all you are gonna lose. Write it down, take a picture, whatever you are getting a yellow timeslip!!! Make it .500 tree and most of you will be right in there and the class will be much more competitive. Lonnie will still be just as good as he is now because he can put delay in... Or... Will he be?? I am only picking on Lonnie because he got up in front of a crowd of people with a mic in his hand and thanked the Blankenships for keepin the rules such that e has a clear advantage over the rest of the field.
All that being said; I will be entered in St. Louis and it will be fun


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Re: Post your best .400 light and car weight with driver [Re: Irun5snd8th] #383565
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Never tried a .400 tree. Where would 1.115 (in the box) when on a .500 handicapped tree put me if I tried ???

Re: Post your best .400 light and car weight with driver [Re: 540dust] #383566
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in a perfect world red by .015
I misread the questin the first time.

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Re: Post your best .400 light and car weight with driver [Re: Irun5snd8th] #383567
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I've had four .000 lights on a .400 tree. Just bump the light #2350 Arrow with anywhere between .015-.030 in the box. Normally I carry 1.125-1.135 in the box bracket racing.



Re: Post your best .400 light and car weight with driver [Re: 540dust] #383568
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Back when I used to race in Denver.. My Barracuda was in S/ST and weighed in @ 2950#.. It could go red (.380 in Vegas...Gecker at the wheel) any time at sea level and was .005-.025 in Denver...(9000+) altitude..


So then they change S/ST to a .500 pro tree...After all the work and $$$ to get the car to react that well @ that weight..



Chris..

Re: Post your best .400 light and car weight with driver [Re: 540dust] #383569
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Never tried a .400 tree. Where would 1.115 (in the box) when on a .500 handicapped tree put me if I tried ???




Red by .015

Re: Post your best .400 light and car weight with driver [Re: wheelsup68dart] #383570
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Never tried a .400 tree. Where would 1.115 (in the box) when on a .500 handicapped tree put me if I tried ???




Red by .015




Thats a un-known... if he is quick then yes but if
his hand to brain to slower it could be anything

Re: Post your best .400 light and car weight with driver [Re: wheelsup68dart] #383571
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.0000 (Milan goes to ten thousandths) with 3,500# Duster footbraking on pro tree. Only happened once though, lol.

Re: Post your best .400 light and car weight with driver [Re: dustergirl340] #383572
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5.13 @ 136 w/1.13 60' double oh's using .010-.020 delay depending on the track, bump in, car & driver 2250#

That's when the driver has his chit together...

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Re: Post your best .400 light and car weight with driver [Re: rickstershemi] #383573
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The best for me are in the .430's shallow staging my car weighs 3150lbs

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I have had a .410 but I'm still not use to the .400
tree... most of the time its much higher. 2405 with me

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