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paint looks very nicely levelled on those pictures.
is there any peel closer ??

what paint are you using ??

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Im not really not getting any orange peel from the Rust SUNBURST YELLOW... I do have just a little from my pre primer job.. Only in the low spots... I didnt wont to sand to far down in those areas and create a bowl like look... Im hoping with sevearl coats they will feel in.. Pic quality not to great... Teenagers friens must have sticky fingers.... My $500 sony camera and $100 chip is gone... Back to a 2 pixel crap camera.. Some have issues with bubbles... I get em also but a hair dryer works well... I just hold it in other hand and follow behind the roller.. When bubbles pop I find it does leave I high circle... Key is I just keep going over same area several times, let paint get a tad tacky... Last passes are just with the weight of the roller, very light passes..
Sometimes its even better to move to the next panel and then go back 5 minutes later and roll again real light, get the stuborn bubbles... I pass the roller over 2 inches at a time... This way no roller marks at all... Start the roller at one end and finish at or off the panel.. Comes out very even... Dont turn the roller mid pass... It takes away paint as you turn..

I think my bottle for mixing is 6ounces... I just do 2 mineral spirits and 4 paint.. I even shake the hell out of it to mix it.. Bubbles with my methods dont matter what so ever.. One thing also is Im painting in about 45-50degrees... This doesnt allow the paint to set up as quick and lets you rework and area.... When Im done I bake it with my turbo heater to about 80 in my garage..
So all you in the heat, may have the paint set up to quick to re-roll it... But think same can work if you just time it right..

Ok time to go paint...

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ok here is my test piece done with combi color (RUSTOLEUM ) final coat wetsanded 1000g and 1500g
than i hit it with SIMONIZ BLACK WAX/POLISH using
the cheapo orbital polisher i got here and all i get is this kinda dull shine .

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Im glad you guys brought up the subject of waxing. I myself have never waxed a car before. I always owned older daily drivers. When I was younger I went to apply at car detail joint and they handed me an orbital polisher and told me to polish a hood of some old Cadillac well needless to say, I didn't do too good. I mean I didn't damage the hood or anything, but just plain out didn't do it right.

I can find out how to wax a car on the internet, but id like to also get personal input from you guys. I hear a lot about poorboys products and would probably start using it. for some reason I think turtle wax rubbing compound will dull my projected mirror-like reflection

Picture was taken after 1000g sand down and hosed it down. this ISN'T after polishing.


I'm finished with my hood with 9 coats. yea 9 coats, I ran outta paint I finished it with a 1000g and when it came to wet sanding, I wondering even though I have lightly sanded the surface, there are tons of small shiny spots on the hood(sorry no pics) I want to go back and sand it to a dull surface, but im afraid ill hit back to the original surface. do i have to dull the hood? or can I go ahead and polish it?

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dude what paint are you using to get that shine
after 1000g wet sanding

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ok here is my test piece done with combi color (RUSTOLEUM ) final coat wetsanded 1000g and 1500g
than i hit it with SIMONIZ BLACK WAX/POLISH using
the cheapo orbital polisher i got here and all i get is this kinda dull shine .

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You didn't mention whether you had hit it with a rubbing compound....

The original choice by Charger was the Turtle Rubbing compound... others have focused on the Poor Boy products. I used the 3m Rubbing Compound....

When you have taken the paint to your highest grit for wetsanding, you should move next to the rubbing compound to further smooth the surface.

I can't speak to much about the Simonize product, but it is probably more of a cleaner/wax then a polish/wax. The difference being that the cleaner/wax does not have any grit to it... so it is simply cleaning surfactants off the surface and trying to lay down a wax coating. Whereas a polish/wax does have some grit to it and it is able to minutely grind some of the surface layer while laying down the coat of paint.

IF you go with the rubbing compound... that should actually be able to work you up to a dull shine all on its own.

You could then go on to just a straight carnuba wax after the compunding...

What you might want to try at this point is take your 2000 grit sandpaper, and do a very light wetsanding again. Then hit it with the rubbing compound to reach the dull shine stage. Then go for your choice of wax to lay down a protective sealant layer ( and max out the shine and gloss that you are able to achieve ).

You mention that you were using a Simonize Black type wax. IF it is one of those 'colored' waxes that have color loaded into them... I should mention that they are primarily for use on oxidized surfaces. It tries to impregnate the painted surface with the black die in the wax. It works great on a heavily oxidized surface that will suck in the black die color like a thirsty sponge. However, on a relatively sealed surface that isn't as porous as an oxidized surface, the black pigment may actually be interfering in your trying to get a maxxed out shine.

And just to round out the topic... the polisher machine... and the types of cloths or bonnets you put on the machine to spread and work the waxes or rubbing compound all have an effect on how the final product turns out.

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sorry should have mentioned ,i have not used a rubbing compound after 1500g went straight to
that black polish .

however today i hit it with various other stuff
(must say i have no clue what most of them are for )
here are some pics of the stuff i used ,the surface is very smooth and is also pretty shiny but it has not got that wet look .

note the can of paint in the pic !!




this is what i got after using rubbing compound and everything else on that picture

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http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa183/partsrenault/S8003318.jpg

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Im glad you guys brought up the subject of waxing. I myself have never waxed a car before. I always owned older daily drivers. When I was younger I went to apply at car detail joint and they handed me an orbital polisher and told me to polish a hood of some old Cadillac well needless to say, I didn't do too good. I mean I didn't damage the hood or anything, but just plain out didn't do it right.

I can find out how to wax a car on the internet, but id like to also get personal input from you guys. I hear a lot about poorboys products and would probably start using it. for some reason I think turtle wax rubbing compound will dull my projected mirror-like reflection

Picture was taken after 1000g sand down and hosed it down. this ISN'T after polishing.


I'm finished with my hood with 9 coats. yea 9 coats, I ran outta paint I finished it with a 1000g and when it came to wet sanding, I wondering even though I have lightly sanded the surface, there are tons of small shiny spots on the hood(sorry no pics) I want to go back and sand it to a dull surface, but im afraid ill hit back to the original surface. do i have to dull the hood? or can I go ahead and polish it?

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dude what paint are you using to get that shine
after 1000g wet sanding

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Im glad you guys brought up the subject of waxing. I myself have never waxed a car before. I always owned older daily drivers. When I was younger I went to apply at car detail joint and they handed me an orbital polisher and told me to polish a hood of some old Cadillac well needless to say, I didn't do too good. I mean I didn't damage the hood or anything, but just plain out didn't do it right.

I can find out how to wax a car on the internet, but id like to also get personal input from you guys. I hear a lot about poorboys products and would probably start using it. for some reason I think turtle wax rubbing compound will dull my projected mirror-like reflection

Picture was taken after 1000g sand down and hosed it down. this ISN'T after polishing.


I'm finished with my hood with 9 coats. yea 9 coats, I ran outta paint I finished it with a 1000g and when it came to wet sanding, I wondering even though I have lightly sanded the surface, there are tons of small shiny spots on the hood(sorry no pics) I want to go back and sand it to a dull surface, but im afraid ill hit back to the original surface. do i have to dull the hood? or can I go ahead and polish it?

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dude what paint are you using to get that shine
after 1000g wet sanding

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Thats regular rustoleum black.

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i am kind of speechless on your results .
i know the packaging will differ slightly
but does that regular rustoleum black
look anything like this one ??



cause i slightly worry i am using the wrong stuff
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I have yet to polish the hood yet. That shot was taken after my 9th coat/1000g wetsand. All I did was hose it down with water.

As for the packaging, I have a different looking can. lemme see if I can dig up a picture.

Here is the same exact can I used.
http://www.igraver.com/images/rustoleum.jpg

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I have yet to polish the hood yet. That shot was taken after my 9th coat/1000g wetsand. All I did was hose it down with water.

As for the packaging, I have a different looking can. lemme see if I can dig up a picture.

Here is the same exact can I used.
http://www.igraver.com/images/rustoleum.jpg

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i'm not to sure the people asking about your shine realised it was WET still. they were thinking you did a 1000g wetsand and that is the shine you have on your paint, but it is the water shining. lets see a picture dry!!

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very good point there ,just noticed the water drops by the front edge
must learn to read properly