Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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i have a question on how you guys did the door jambs and trunk jambs. did you actually use a roller and brush or did you spray bomb the jambs?
I haven't done my door jams yet, only the tailgate jam. I used the roller as I was able to sqeeze it into all the areas.
I should be able to use the roller for the door jams aswell as my doors can open pretty wide and there's not too much fidly bits, but i guess it all depends on the particular car...
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
[Re: Jerry]
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03/03/08 12:01 AM
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i have a question on how you guys did the door jambs and trunk jambs. did you actually use a roller and brush or did you spray bomb the jambs?
I began my paint job by using a Tremclad spray bomb to spray the inner door jams, underside of the hood and underside of the trunk. Since I was rolling the car body in Tremclad 'Fire Red', the aerosol is the same color as the liquid paint - so no problem on matching. And when I switched to Brightside it also was 'Fire Red' which is identical in color to the Tremclad 'Fire Red'.
At this moment, with my car in its completed state, it would take a really trained eye to spot where I used the aerosol bomb on the hard to reach spots and the more visually exposed body areas that were finished using Brightside.
I found it simply more easy and convenient to spray those hard to reach areas. As well, those areas are less exposed to road rocks or chipping, so the aerosol holds up quite well in those areas and maintains a good shine.
What I did do to give the aerosol a fighting chance is :
a ) high pressure hosed those hard to reach areas to get rid of any oils, dirt or other crap that were in there....
b ) I then followed that up by using an aerosol bomb of 'brake cleaning spray' to ensure that there was no soap or oil left on those areas. If you are going to spray this area with the 'brake cleaning spray', just make sure that you use the one that doesn't leave anything on the surface when it dries.
Also, it is important to mention that I did all those hidden areas BEFORE starting painting on the body panels or rockers. The reason : because the 'brake cleaning spray' would have eaten away any fresh paint on the rocker panels or any where else the brake cleaning spray might have flowed to. So it just makes sense to do things in their right sequence.... do the inner jambs, and undersides of the trunk and hood before you move on to the body panels.
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
[Re: Marq]
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03/03/08 04:49 PM
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Anyone got any supplies they want to sell?
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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03/05/08 07:38 PM
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Poor mans canopy, amazon head hunter tribe style. (Dont laugh )
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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03/06/08 01:22 AM
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Poor mans canopy, amazon head hunter tribe style.
To Quote John Wayne : " A man's gotta do... what a man's gotta do "
I think its pretty creative to see what you have been able to put together. If we were on Survivor Island, I would like to have you as a team mate. At least we would have a shelter on our first day on the island...
Now... if we were on Gilligan's Island, I would probably want the Professor to be my team mate. Heck he could build a three floor condo with just coconuts
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
[Re: Marq]
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03/07/08 07:29 PM
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Does anyone know of a website that sells cheap materials? My local Home Depot and Lowes sell foam rollers for 6-7 bucks.
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Re: surface contamination and adhesion problems
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03/08/08 08:31 PM
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Ok sorry to butt in here.... Im new to site and simply wont to post a thread... And get started how the heck do I do this? Is it the threaded button that takes you to a huge list... help help please... anybody
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Re: surface contamination and adhesion problems
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03/09/08 04:01 AM
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Ok sorry to butt in here.... Im new to site and simply wont to post a thread... And get started how the heck do I do this? Is it the threaded button that takes you to a huge list... help help please... anybody
Assuming that huge list are the threads in "Moparts Question and Answer", look for the "POST" button. Thats how you create a new thread.
back on topic - are you guys using angle grinders to polish your vehicles?
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Polishing with Angle Grinders
[Re: Marq]
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03/11/08 09:05 PM
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One thought.. an angle grinder (unless its brand new) has likely been used for ginding. Therefore there's a good chance that some small paricles of metal or another hard substance are clinging to it. It wouldn't take much under the high speed wheel to damage your pristine paint job. There may even be some grit that blows out from the motor. Just a thought..
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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03/11/08 09:19 PM
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Hey all,
I just stripped all the paint down (aircraft remover), sanded with 220 then 400 and then laid on the 1st coat (rustoleum gloss black).
I used about 65% rustoleum and 35% mineral spirits.
Am I right in thinking that I put this 1st coat on way too thick? How can I fix it? Can I just wetsand it before the 2nd coat or could I get by wetsanding after the 2nd coat?
First Coat (unsanded)
I think that looks a tad heavy.....BUT there's 2 ways to look at it, since you layed it down very nice and smooth, you'll get coverage faster, and you could lay 2 coats as you did, and wetsand (which i actually find quite quick to do myself) and then another coat, really good perfect wetsand, and polish.....done...
the key being you layed a good coat down quite smoothly, and anytime you can do that your ahead in my book. You could be done in 4 coats....
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Re: Let me introduce myself
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03/11/08 10:39 PM
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Ok well Sorry cant seem to figure out how to not highjack a post to post... Im doing a 1979 cj7 frame up rebuild... But not more than just a back yard wont to be mechanic.. Best thing is Im learning alot and been amazing my self with results so far... All my body parts been stripped down to metal.. Had really no choices but to use filler however in some arears.. Really been reading and debating to pay $1100.00 to get it painted, cheapist I got quoted.. Or follow you all in your expierence's... Im going to do the $100 route... Only thing have not purchased is primer! Denver has West Marine and but cant find Brightside primer in there phone book of products.. Visited Napa today... They have that tractor primer stuff that is rollerable... But beeing that I have it down to bare metal... Sounds like the Bright side primer will cover better, to give me better sanding surface... How important is the primer? Little worried that either would work with the Rust Sunburst Yellow I'll be using... Speaking of Yellow Ive learned its also hard to paint Yellow... But if I can avoid fish eye ect. then Im willing to put the extra time in coverage coats.. Sence I cant go metalic, yellow will make it POP...! Heres a link to my jeep progress if interested! http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/showthread.php?t=865425Take a look and Ill keep you all informed of my progress..... Thanks for the great thread to all who have made it!!!!!!
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Re: Let me introduce myself
[Re: Marq]
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03/12/08 11:18 AM
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Ok... first off... I would not hesitate to use a tractor primer. It would provide good anti-rust protection and probably lay down a nice thicker coat of primer that can be sanded ( old farmers are pretty demanding about products performing or they would have bad mouthed the product in to extinction ).
Well good... Napa is 5min away and westmarine is about 40min... So Nappa it is...
Now Marq... I did use Herculiner on inside and out side bottom of tub... But it will not be painted... Black looks fine and will give it good contrast to the Yellow.... So just painting the exterior of this jeep... Herculiner does fade over time from the sun.. But is a product that sprays on with UV protectant in it to help avoid that..
Thanks for the input... Puts me that much closer to getting started...
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Re: Let me introduce myself
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03/15/08 09:51 AM
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hey all just joined today though not a current mopar owner have been in the past.('73 duster,'77 diplomat) and owned an amc ('74 javelin)currently own a '83 ford fairmont futura always looking for new ideas and restoration tips.i have been up late the past few nights reading various posts on this subject i'm considering it myself i put some primer on the front fenders and hood using the rustoleum and it dosen't look that good.so i bought a quart of white primer and a couple of rollers so i'm gonna give it a shot here in the next few days.i'll keep you posted and will try and upload some pics thanks.
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Re: Let me introduce myself
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03/17/08 07:01 PM
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Need some more rope to tighten the tarp down and im done! $25 Car port
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Re: Let me introduce myself
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03/17/08 11:49 PM
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With a hut like that, you likely won't be voted off first!
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I'm speechless
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03/19/08 08:17 AM
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This guy is a HOOT! He claims that the $50 paint job is a myth, but that you can get professional results for just a bit more by simply buying his DVD... borrowing a compressor... and a paint gun... and a garage. He even links you to a site where a guy got amazing results with rolled Rustoleum to prove that rolled Rustoleum doesn't work... Huh? http://www.easypaintyourcar.com/CarPainting/fiftydollarmyth.html
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Re: I'm speechless
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03/19/08 09:58 AM
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This guy is a HOOT! He claims that the $50 paint job is a myth, but that you can get professional results for just a bit more by simply buying his DVD... borrowing a compressor... and a paint gun... and a garage.
He even links you to a site where a guy got amazing results with rolled Rustoleum to prove that rolled Rustoleum doesn't work... Huh?
http://www.easypaintyourcar.com/CarPainting/fiftydollarmyth.html
Of course it doesn't work, since he is trying to SELL his DVD, and i'm not trying to sell $hit... His misconception about roller painting pi$$es me off.
He keeps going on about sanding, sanding, well you get the point, the reality of the fact is that within about 10 hours you can easily wetsand, and when you get the process down pat for example, i wetsanded my charger between coats in less than 2 hours. Start to finish, took me 3 days, BUT not solid, about 3 hours a day work. Plus you can do this in a residential area, where if you spray, someone will likely call the police, as happened to me.
I look at his civic, great, the reality is that the novice will most likely screw up the paint job, spraying is HARD. I've done both, many many times. I'd love to race this guy in a paint job, the reality is you have to tape the car up, which in itself would take longer than a few wetsands between coats. Plus his pics SUCK, if his painting skills were good he'd show pictures like this:
I rest my case. I'm not shooting down spraying a car, actually i prefer to spray a car, I'd just like to debunk his referrals to the roller paint job, plus remember this guys motive, he's profiting from this venture, sure he will shoot down the roller paint job; after all he probably lost 90% of his business since this came out. It has really gone a lot farther than i thought it did, if someone told me it would go this crazy I'd never have believed it. Plus i shared it with you guys for FREE!!!!!
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Re: I'm speechless
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03/19/08 11:16 AM
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Plus i shared it with you guys for FREE!!!!!
... And cheapskates like me worldwide sure appreciate it!
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