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Re: ? about electric sanders and buffers
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12/02/07 06:52 PM
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You can get the rustoleum at Lowes, Home Depot, Super Wal-mart, Wal-mart, Ace hardware (the Ace brand is the same thing but cheaper) and you can get it in gloss black, satin black, and flat black. You'll have to get the mixture of Mineral spirts to paint just right for black though, it'll show orange peel and runs and any imperfections pretty easy. Do it in a well lit garage so you can see any imperfections and make sure you get the imperfections out before you add another layer, especially with black. I just spent half the weekend sanding off a black paint brush paint job on a car I bought where the original owner put the paint on too thick and didn't wet sand. It was nothing but orange peel. To give you an example of black orange peel:  and the sanding job. . .  I'm gonna take the time and prime it again. . . I had to go down to bare metal in some spot. . .
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Re: ? about electric sanders and buffers
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12/02/07 07:42 PM
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You can get the rustoleum at Lowes, Home Depot, Super Wal-mart, Wal-mart, Ace hardware (the Ace brand is the same thing but cheaper)
and you can get it in gloss black, satin black, and flat black.
You'll have to get the mixture of Mineral spirts to paint just right for black though, it'll show orange peel and runs and any imperfections pretty easy. Do it in a well lit garage so you can see any imperfections and make sure you get the imperfections out before you add another layer, especially with black.
I just spent half the weekend sanding off a black paint brush paint job on a car I bought where the original owner put the paint on too thick and didn't wet sand. It was nothing but orange peel.
To give you an example of black orange peel:
and the sanding job. . .
I'm gonna take the time and prime it again. . . I had to go down to bare metal in some spot. . .
ya i actually got everything from wal mart last night. i took the gas cap off the truck to try it. i sanded first wiwth i think 120g REAL REAL light. i think it might have been too much grit. but its not bad. there are little bubbles in it, but im sure when i wet sand those will come out. im using 600, 800, 1200, then 1500 grits in that order. and after all that ima polish it. im sure it will look good. just waiting on the sand paper. i ordered a bunch off ebay for dirt cheap, so im just waiting for them to get here...cant wait!
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Re: ? about electric sanders and buffers
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12/03/07 09:31 AM
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Most paint-shop paint is designed to be sprayed on and requires addition of hardeners and such.
While it is designed to be sprayed on the thing with this particular type of paint which is why I mentioned it is that it's single stage. You don't mix in any hardeners or anything. You use it straight out of the can. So in theory anyway it could be rolled on. But since it is actual auto paint I would think there could potentially be even better results with it. It's of course more expensive than Rustoleum and the like but significantly cheaper than typical auto paint. It's about $20 a quart. If I had something that needed painting I would give it a whirl.
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Re: Ace Paint ? "Color Matching"
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12/03/07 11:35 AM
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Ace paint "stop rust" tintable Color Matching?
Do you think they"Ace" can get it to match B5
blue or get real close to it?  & What do you Thin it with ?
& Can you use a HVLP gun"air"?  & can you clear coat it? if so what kind of clear coat?
This is for a `70 `Cuda B5 int.&ext.Want to do it cheap.But Don`t want it to LOOK CHEAP! 
Thanks, JZ`Cuda
NEED MORE INFO on the HVLP air gun & Clear coat & can you use Thiner?
Thanks again!,JZ`Cuda 
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Re: Ace Paint ? "Color Matching"
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12/03/07 01:50 PM
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Yes, Yes, and Yes. You can use them all, but why bother with this method. If you are going to go that route, you should use regular auto paint (base coat/clear coat.
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Re: Ace Paint ? "Color Matching"
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12/04/07 10:54 AM
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Yes, Yes, and Yes. You can use them all, but why bother with this method. If you are going to go that route, you should use regular auto paint (base coat/clear coat.
 MONEY!
I live in MICHIGAN lost my job. Almost lost my house. times are rough! 
anyway Got everthing just no paint.
Thanks,JZ`Cuda 
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Re: ? about electric sanders and buffers
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12/04/07 03:40 PM
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whats up guys, i just registered cause i had a little input on this subject. i have been reading about this all day, and all last night. from a few different sites. and the first site i read said that the mixture of paint and mineral spirits should be about 50/50. and if there are bubbles in the paint, then it is still too thick. i havent done this on my truck yet, but im in the process of getting stuff together to do it. i have a 99 ford lightning. i was maybe gonna take eitehr the gas cap off and do a test on that, or my tail gate. its black now, and im gonna keep it black. can you get this paint from home depot? the rust oleum? and responses are appreciated..thanks
no one has any input for me? i just put the first coat on my gas tank cover, and i guess its gonna take a few days to finish that
I've only used Brightside, but worked with diff ratios (from 10-0%) and found I can get bubbles w/ any. There are other variables besides solvent ratio. I think how much paint you apply, how hard you roll and temperature also affect bubbles. And there are multiple techniques for bubble removal. Foam brush, roller, breath..
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orange peel
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12/05/07 11:48 PM
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hey guys, im up to my fifth coat now and i still haven't got full coverage, and i'm finding that even after wetsanding the paint lays down with quite a bit of orange peel, is this normal? does brightside have this problem? if not i may lay down my final coat as brightside.
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Re: orange peel
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12/06/07 12:41 PM
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Hello folks:
I've been reading this great set of threads for a while now, and hopefully this is some decent advice for Aussie:
Orange peel means the paint is drying before it has a chance to fully level, either too thick in one layer (trying to cover too much at once) or the temperature is too hot for your thinning ratio=Paint/spirits.
I've painted cars over the years and talked to lots of car painters. They all hate reds because the paint is "thin" and doesn't cover until there are lots of coats. If these are spray painters saying this, maybe it applies here too.
Thinner coats and more of them. Through the whole history of this discussion there are people who paint red and are not satisfied and those who turned out nicely.
The good ones always said 8-10 coats is what it took for reds.Probably is what you need.
LESS PAINT per layer , Forget complete covering for now, and more total coats. Just try to get level coats with each pass I would say---not having tried this yet myself. If you get enough thin coats on there you WILL have coverage.
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Re: orange peel
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12/06/07 06:44 PM
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so far, my test is doing awesome. im only doing my gas door for now, im taking my time with it. i actually wet sanded w 600g twice. and last night i did 800g. so i think i have a total of 4 coats now. i could probably even polish it now and i would be VERY happy with it. but im gonna sand w 1000g, then1200 then prolly 1500, and possibly 3000 just for shits and giggles. i may just said with 1000 tonight, then move to 1200g, then put another coat on. mind you, the truck is black. but like i said, it looks VERY good so far! VERY SHINY!! ill post pics!!
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Re: orange peel
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12/06/07 08:46 PM
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i just sanded with 1200 and 1500. and applied another coar of paint. am i supposed to sand it one last time after this coat dries? or just polish it? or do i sand and polish it?
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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12/07/07 12:46 PM
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Last edited by CJ7; 12/08/07 11:05 AM.
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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12/07/07 03:23 PM
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CJ7, OUTSTANDING DOCUMENTATION. YOU DID AN EXCELLENT JOB!!!.  THANKS FOR SHARING.....
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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12/07/07 03:39 PM
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CJ7, OUTSTANDING DOCUMENTATION. YOU DID AN EXCELLENT JOB!!!. THANKS FOR SHARING.....
Thank you sir...more to come.
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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12/07/07 05:25 PM
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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12/08/07 12:01 AM
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I'd wet sand one last time, wipe it down with a mineral spirit dampened cloth, let dry, wipe it down with a tack cloth, and then break out the polish and polisher.
I'm wet sanding in between every coat. ..
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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12/08/07 04:08 PM
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The new dedicated forum is up and running: Rolled On
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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12/08/07 09:52 PM
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I'd wet sand one last time, wipe it down with a mineral spirit dampened cloth, let dry, wipe it down with a tack cloth, and then break out the polish and polisher.
I'm wet sanding in between every coat. ..
im wetsanding in between every coat too. but after the final coat i sanded with 3000g. and after polishing, i could still see the scratches
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Heres my contribution: 
